ROAD-TRIP! | Traveling For The Holidays, A.I. Refs & Christian Music | The MJ38 Show #108

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I'm talking about Thanksgiving week, which makes me think about traveling. You know, road tripping, driving around, going to see family. You know, typically live in the same place as your family. For the most part, people usually move for whatever reason, work relationships, opportunity. Yeah. Traveling for the holidays. It's classic travel. Every every challenge for the holidays. We're going to Louisiana, so it's gonna be like a six hour trip. It's going to. We don't have any family out there. We're just going. We're just going to go. You know, I've heard a lot of people doing that. These holidays. Really? Someone in the family buying it. An Airbnb somewhere? Yeah. Airbnb somewhere. The family meeting up there. Do I have her like 4 or 5 people say that. That's crazy. That's really in right now. That's wild because yeah that hadn't crossed my matrix. So you know it's always just like all right we're hanging out with the family van Gogh travel finger road trip. At least like a from our house to like our parents house. Like your dad lives two hours away. Yeah. My mom's, like, an hour and 45 minutes away ish. It's like we're traveling at least a little bit, you know? Some people, 45 minutes. But then, yeah, we're going on a little, little six hour trek. It's not that bad. You've been on long road trips, right? Oh, yeah. Dude, I'm a road dog. I see a ship that I like, a trucker. And I think cause they really. Since they're like the truckers who drive. Yeah, that's that's their living. Yeah, they've seen some really other shit, but I'm out there. I got some stripes. Like I've driven to Louisiana for Thanksgiving. Because my step brothers grandma lives in, Crowley, Louisiana. Okay. That's like, just past where we went. Yeah. Shreveport. Yeah. It's like maybe 30, 45 minutes past Shreveport. My memory serves me right. But I was also, like, 18 to my dad was like, well, you can drive. Actually, I ain't driving, bitch. I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, well, I get the intro, the music the whole way. If you're gonna, like, make me drive, bitch, give me the audio, give me the Oxford whatever. Oh, AirPods. Fuck the rest of the car. Let me get. What are we gonna wait? What are we going to fill the moment with? Yeah. I was like, I'm big. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, shit. Pop it. Hey. That's what I had to cook it on. Yeah, yeah. But then he. Yeah, he was in his own world. So we we worked it out, so. So. Yeah. So, so I've made that trip specifically the. And then. Yeah we've done it together before too. So fun drive six isn't bad. Four is super enjoyable for a road trip six. You think so? In my mind, two is not even a fucking thing. I can do that without even thinking about it. That's like 225, you know what I'm saying? Okay. To like a, like a double cheeseburger. And then four is like, okay, now a road trippin. But if I like mentally prepare for that, that's like the that's like a four mile run. That's like easiest okay. It's a workout but it's easiest workout. I'm with you then six is like the brink of uncomfortable. That's where I'm at. I like to get tested. I gotta stretch these fucking legs by the end of six and then eights where you're in, you're in deep water. At that point, in my opinion. Yeah. You just drove for a shift. My dog. That's a deep water player. If you Jeffrey living bro that there. But there. That's a mud. You're, It's a great. I can't even think of a metaphor. You've picked up a vocation that's poisoning you like. Oh, God, I don't think anybody that's doing that is like. That's like, financially, they're overpaying you because you're, like, destroying yourself. First of all, it's like, hard to live in your house because you're always on the road and then driving for so long, it's like, not good for your posture or your legs or you're like your attention or like your brain. And then people are they're taking a ton of pills so they can like, keep on driving, bro, keep on trucking, brother. And you gotta know what it's like. Well, this guy drove for 22 hours straight. He's like, hey, bro. It. Bro, I could, he starts to get a little loopy. Bro. I've been there, I say to for 36 plus hours straight, you know, like for the for a while or like, not a long time, but like, for an entire 24 hour period and, like, live the next day, like your next conscious life. So I know there's like 15, 16 hours and then, then they go to sleep. So like 15 plus 24 or 39, 40 hours. But I'm, I'm sorry to keep running by me again. Just the amount of time a lot of the time stayed up in one period of time. I mean, 36 is ridiculous. You know, it's just like, yeah, you saved the whole day or the whole night all night. And then you just continue. You're okay. You're normal day. You know? I'm. You can do that. I'm do that right now. Okay. Word. Yeah yeah, yeah. So, it's, Okay. So I think it's like a a conceptual as it. I've been living like a vampire, just staying up all night, sleeping all day. So then to fix it. To fix it. I woke up at like six on Sunday, and then I stayed up all night, worked out. I'm gonna do this all day and then go to sleep at nighttime. And then I'll be back. Boom. What? We're talking about staying up for a long period of time straight and then driving with the truckers like, yeah, you do it for 22 hours straight. Yeah. I said, and then they would cover that. So it's not crazy. Crazy, but it is crazy. It's definitely not advisable. I think those people are just fine. Get some sleep. Something. Yeah, I think definitely coffee. Oh, yeah. Some caffeine. You're crazy if you're not, if you don't do anything. That was one of the first times where I really understood smoking does something to you because, like, if you're so tired that you're falling asleep while you're driving, but you pick up a cigaret and you smoke that cigaret, you will no longer be that tired. Just like straight up, you know, like the nootropic effect of, nicotine. Yes. It's. Yeah. And tobacco. Tobacco is also a nootropic as well. Okay. Word. So both of those things are hitting you at the same time. And then I think also that's like you're doing something so like like because you're doing something you're a little less likely to just be like falling down because you're like if you start you could just like pick yourself up literally any time. But but. It's phenomenally noticeable if you're on a, especially a long car trip and you get the fucking highway. Not hypnosis, but like you're literally falling asleep, just light up a cigaret or light up a fucking cigar and you'll be good for like, another the cigaret like last like 20 minutes. But a cigar lasts for like 30, 45 minutes. Like you're fucking. That's crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah. Like, I would get a pack of five of the wood to cigarillos, and it's dumb to smoke those, but you're good for, like, an hour for every one of those that you pop. So if you're, like, chuckling you know what I'm saying. Like just pop one of those. You sleepy driving is so dangerous right. That's rough dude. Yeah there's the fucking empty 38 days bro. Going to freestyle Frankie these and then staying up hitting my pre-workout at four then getting the golds at five, then just having a day and I'm so let's get a little loopy. You can see like a different type of effect that be hitting on you you know. Yeah for sure for sure. Yeah yeah. You need some sleep. You start doing dumb stuff, but just sleep. It's just for us. Been animals. It was fun to set up on that first show and then be like, oh, I'm working. Oh, I'm a really rapper. Actually, that was the show was a really rapper. Yes, I fuck with us. It was doing some hard shit, narrative driven. Yeah. But yeah, I drove to faith type shit to the Minnesota. Yeah. Do you. How far is that? That's like 22 or 23 hours. There's a place in this place called Auburn that's banana sandwich. It's like Auburn, Illinois or something like that. That's like about halfway. That's like where I. Every time, the first time I got there, I was like, I can't do any more. Like, I'm fried, I'm cooked. I'm gonna cause an accident. And so I was like, yo, great, so we're just going to sleep right here for a while. And then I slept for like four hours in the parking lot. And then I woke up and then finished the drive, so like, like maybe like a 12 hours and then ten more hours and, I don't know, you know, you just kind of do the, the first time I did that drive, I listened to the 12 Rules for life on audiobook and finished it on audiobook. When I tried to drive for anything you turn. That's for the world. How do you feel in the moment with it? It's just like, yeah. What are we listening to here in the car? You know? Yeah, there's some some shit in that book. But yeah, it's nice to have like, a few Joe Rogan's lined up if you're traveling. A couple hundred and 38 in there. Yeah, totally. Okay. 100 episodes. Yeah. I could do some drives. I'll stop listening to something for as opposed to Joe Rogan for a couple weeks for not going on a plane. So I have, like 2 or 3 to the sucks when you're on the plane and you've listened to all the Joe Rogan and you're like, fuck yeah. So yeah, yeah, I know, but yeah, it's, traveling for the holidays. Traveling? Yeah. Six hours. Not that crazy, but 20 to. That's a long time. It was cool. It was like we needed to go to Minnesota, all right? Because our grandkids, our grandpa passed away. So we're going to go to the funeral, right? But unless it was, like, super expensive to fly there. Oh, it was like to fly there was like six, seven, $800 for both of us. But we could drive there for like 2 or $300, you know, just like, let's just fucking drive. I can make that happen right now. We can leave right now. I like that feeling. Oh, God. Yeah. But, you know, I like, just feel like your road trip. Like we could fucking get our things together. Where do you want to go? Get your things in the car. Oh, you hit the road. Yeah. And it's on, you know. Yeah. There's an element of a road trip. Like we can just be thrilled, inspiring it. So that's what my sister did, because I was kind of like looking at flight tickets, and I was like, no, it just makes more sense logistically to drive. It also makes more sense. It makes the most sense to leave, like relatively soon, too. And then I think, no, I don't think we just took off because I think I had to put in a request to work and then request to work, and then I was like, I worked whatever day. And then we took off the flight nicely. Just do the day. Yeah. That's why two hours a lot. Yeah, dude, it's coming out. That's one thing I wanted to bring up today, but oh yeah, constraint holidays. So the other constraint was that we could like we had to go, you know what I'm saying. All those things made like a 22 hour drive. No one's going to want to get in the car and just go drive 22 hours just for fucking funsies. Visiting gigs. Life was like calling me to go do this thing. So that's what made it more like it was like a quest. I felt like Ragnar Lothbrok. Okay. Yeah. Rolling across the ocean. And I kept, like, visualizing that when I got hired for my story. Like, I have to do this, you know? Yeah, yeah, it was necessary anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that was that. It was cool. Was fun. Drive. That's crazy. But I do think a lot of people. Audiobooks, podcasts. What music. Kind of like football between the three. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You kind of have to. It's nice when you can just like kill 2 or 3 hours on one podcast or a book, but then sometimes you're like, okay, like we need to listen to music because I need to change it up because I'm starting to, like, fall asleep or it's just like, I'm not changing energy a little bit. Yeah. And then the most fun is when people are playing songs that are just, like, fun to scream in the car. So like, okay, there's like some of my Chemical Romance songs that go super hard. So like, they ship up and goes crazy in the car. Yeah, of course you're bangers. Yeah. Oh, this is what I'm. How is it? It's all of that song. So Dover. So yeah, there's always like, classic songs and that'll keep it going for a while. The same thing with your workout playlist. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, this whole thing was like this playlist was fresh at one point and I was like, not to the same degree that it was when I first made it. You know, I was like, these songs are hidden. And then after listening to that playlist for, you know, too long, it's something, something happens. So like, they fall or something falls off of it or, you know, so some of the songs still do the thing. Some of us are to annoy you. More is skipping this fucking song. Yeah, well. Well, I'm pulling up this fucking playlist for you guys. I me more time than value. You're bringing me for a second of existence and I allow that. What's going on here? I picked you my fucking fall. I'm so dumb. Yeah. The reflection of. I love this Dido. What you said. Yeah. The playlist thing. It's crazy. I'm in a weird place because I don't listen to secular music anymore. Like I can't really say myself to do it for strangers. We hit into it sometimes before it's trying. Stuff is getting old and I'm like a scary thought, but it's still the most change in the world skills. And so I worked outside all day today. You know, I think I finish with Jesus Walks in there for my last three minutes in the sauna because I was dying and I was just like, it kind of hit me. I was like, oh, it's so funny that Jesus Walks is like one song that fits directly in with like, what I listen to now, and I'm like, it was my favorite song back when I listen to mostly only secular music, and now I don't own any that music at all. But it's the one song that made it through over here. Yeah, like that's crazy, bro. It's like I always do that. You were the one piece of good music of all the music that I've. Of all the rap I've ever heard, it was like Jesus walks to the best song now. And now I'm like, actually have ears to hear good music. Like for us, Frank. And I'm like, yeah. I also listen to Jesus Walks is actually still a good song. Jesus Walks Here. It's now that I know good music is that V hey! And yeah. Yes, yes, I was amazing I that song so yeah it's. Yeah like 70 minutes of the song. Know that I had to get out. It was just so hot. I was suffering for like five minutes straight. Let's go. That's what that's what it came there for. Sure. And then I went back in and then finished for the last start with Jesus Walks. Yes, bro. I think my favorite memories as a kid are traveling to New York for Christmas through snowing and shit. Yeah. Get on the plane. Been in an airport, been on a planes. Fucking crazy when you were a kid. Yeah. How old are you? Like, I think we did it when I was, like, six and eight, six and eight. We went to New York. Then I think like seven and nine people came to see us and said, you know, okay. But I got on a plane and flew to New York when I was in first grade and third grade, I'm pretty sure. So that was just fucking that one. If you're an avid listening to the podcast you'll remember that shitting myself on the tube story. We typically let tell the story of the podcast of being in New York on a big hill, like, oh okay. Yeah, yeah. The snowsuit going down a tube and I shit myself. Jogging up that hill. No, I just, you know, I just greasy New York food. I think more than anything, I was so fucking ready for that. Was it ready for that lasagna? Oh. No. You like a whole problem, too? Because it's like once you're committed to going up the hill now, going inside, the shit's like, really, really down low on the fucking queue. But at priority, super high. So anyways. Okay, so anyways, that was when I was like in first grade and that's, that was when we were in New York. But I'm trying to tell you some of the best moments of my life traveling for the holidays. It's like, yeah, when I think about being a kid, like I'm like the Home Alone kid. If the Home Alone kid didn't get left alone. Home alone? Yeah, there would be no movie. But he'd have a better memory. He'd have a better childhood. I had that better childhood. And it's hallmark and some degree of traveling for the holidays. It's like something I remember. Yeah. So travel. It's. It's just like at the movies, the summertime. There's something that's time as time of the year. You feel me? It's. We go home for the holidays. Gone on overload. So it's like a real thing. People do I. So it's going to be today and we got to the fucking. Oh you got you. Could you we get to check out at the same time I'm pantomiming that for everybody. You can't see that. Okay. But I don't know, I was just in such a good mood because I fucking lifted my ass off, and I was just like, you know, he's like a old guy. And I was just like, oh, you can go, man. And he's like, oh, really? Because I'm. I'm not even sure. I got 15 items. And I was like, sounds good to me, brother. And then he was like, well, all right then, okay. Then he's fucking. Yeah, he's old and he's to do some other items. So I just have my fucking thing now. I'm like, whatever, dude. I'm like on the back side of the morning, I'm about to come home. And if you do a podcast, I don't care until. That cashier is such a bitch to this guy. No, because I think to myself, I'm like, I'm gonna ask assume like cuz he tells me he's like, Happy Thanksgiving. Now I was going to ask him like, when do you have family coming into town? And then the lady kind of like says some shit a little and he's going to like, woman, whatever. And then he, like, reaches back to the car or he asks her, like, can you scan these paper towels? And she's like, I can. And I'm like, all right, bitch. And it continues on. But anyways, he leans back for a second and I'm like, yeah, family coming into town for Thanksgiving. He's like, now just me and my wife. Well, we're 70. And I was like, oh, you look great, man. Keep doing this on or whatever you're doing. He was like, you're so kind. Turned around and the cashier was just a bitch to the rest of the time. And I was like, man, fuck the fur guy, man. The old student, 70 year old man. Just him and his wife. No. They come back for Thanksgiving maneuver in the war. Yeah. No word maneuver in the world, I guess if you don't have kids. Also, 17 is crazy. I mean, you're grown up in the fucking war. The 50s. So. Yeah, I know what you think about Thanksgiving for 70, dude, 70 day. Anyways, it was worth the cash. It was fun having a bad day or something. Last year I was like, you having a good day? Okay, there you have it. I'm just kind of on autopilot right now. Doing what I got to do. Me and you won't be so bad. Is you tripping? Okay. This paper, I was like, well, fair enough. To say, do say. And then I said, you know, a customer I told Mike Tyson was he should tell Mike Tyson should tell himself I am the task. And I did what I need to lock the fuck in. I told myself I am the task, so I ain't going, hey, if you're in the middle of telling yourself you're the task and she's like, oh, what the fuck that means? But have a good day. His her eye full of workers were there. That was necessary. But that is what happened at H-e-b today. So, you know, it's a little interactions. Interesting. But it was funny that yeah, we brought up just I was like, surely you got some family coming to see you or some shit, bro. You know, this our dog, you know, for the last one I was like, oh shit. He's like, thanks for talking to me. Lost the world spins on me. Hey, you fucking know. Get the fuck out! Jesus! Get the fuck out! Grandpa was like, Jesus. That it was just. I don't know, it's kind of a start. It happened right before I came back here to the end of the podcast. What the fuck? Weird start. Rude. Yeah. Yeah, she was just having. Why is your autopilot rude like that? I don't know, shit like that to be like a dick myself. But she was kind of like, like a 40 year old lady to was like, not super attractive, like put together but not put together, like with style or grace. Like, I wouldn't say she was beautiful, but also I want to shit on her. She's a woman, you know, like, there's like a natural beauty involved with feminine energy, for sure. But, it seems like she had fallen beneath the mark of what would be like, you know, like putting yourself together in a truly beautiful way, which is fine. And. But she was a little overweight, too. She's a little pudgy. She's a pudgy girl. Looked like she's out of shops at Walmart. I don't know, I'm not trying to like. What do you mean? I just took a picture. Okay. Got we got her. What do? The shelves in Walmart. You know what I'm saying? You know. And I was just like, you know, she just looked like she wasn't winning at life. And I'm like, so you going to beat up on this fucking geezer because you didn't do deadlifts today or something that, I don't know, was because I'm doing well today. I'm like, yeah, that's bitch energy because you don't get up and do what you got to do, Yeah. I've been up since yesterday. My if my days been started to get even. You weren't at the start line. That line was like hours ago. Anyways, whatever, I don't know, was to happen to be today. How about you? What am I doing? Going through everything from, just hit the gym this morning. I think that was pretty much it. They told me was a radical lift. Yeah, yeah, it's just some chest and shoulders. Yeah, just the shoulders. I like that. I like the double push. Yeah. It's a it's a good amount. It's nice your shoulders at the end and then nice and heavy chest nice. That's fine bro. It's just it's it's the same thing over and over and over. It's like I heard the Spurs coach talking about like, fine. Like we gotta embrace the boring, you know, you know, tech type vibes. But that's like yeah. No I get it. It's like yeah, yeah I feel yeah I feel that bro. Especially like for shooting get a. Yeah sure. Like what a 100 200 300 400 500 shots a day being elite shooter. Hundreds, thousands. You know what I'm saying? Some of those are very boring hours you're spending in that gym. It's like I'm about to do. Pull up. Left hand, pull up, right hand. Pull up. Left hand cross, pull up. Right hand, cross 100 on all four sides. That's going to take like 45 minutes at a boring ass. 45 minutes, you know what I'm saying? But you just got to do it. Just if you want to pull up and break in the game. Yeah. And then this working out too. It's the same thing over and over, like running, you know, the same thing, but it's different every time. Yeah, but it's just like a constant wheel you're turning, you know. So here we go. It's doing the thing. Yeah. But it feels so good to be doing that once it gets to that point. But first it's like Well such a large ask. Yeah. Yeah. The very interest very high. But now the workouts are so fun for me now. Yeah. Join the hell out of them. Yeah. It's good. It's great then. Yeah. Got this program from caged or, it's just like, they used to be on bodybuilding back in the day. You could just go there and they'd be like free workouts or like, like gyms. Apparently Chris in Jay Cutler and like, like Arnold, you know, that's where work at the Arnold working from the outside video in college already when I was bored of it. Yeah, right. Like that was free. But now it's not free. People are done. Yeah, but when you say it's not free, like, do you mean like you have to pay for a membership to, like, pretty sure like ESPN has Espn+, I believe so okay, I believe so I get me wrong, I haven't I haven't checked that in a long time. And there's a lot of gym versus podcast. I'm sure there's a million workout plans out there. But yeah, I like having bodybuilding being the kind of like the foundational source of where I found my shit. Yeah, I like it though. Yeah. For sure. Emilio introduced me to Chris Gethin initially. Well, yeah. I'm bodybuilding. That's cool. I never got into, like, the actual people, but I mean, it was on that level where he probably would look at all the workouts and say, this workout is fucking crazy. Who's this guy, Chris Gethard? What the fuck is he about? Oh, this guy's fucking crazy. That's gonna be aware of him after that. His super internet for sure. Yeah, real Chris Gethard. So I like the guy's cage. I think it's cage muscle dickhead. Yeah, they have a pre-workout line to us, you know? Yeah, yeah, they get supplements and shit. I think he may have left that company, though. I'm not sure what's going on with that. I think I remember seeing that within the last year or two, maybe, maybe sooner. By the way, I think that happened to me. Sure. Why not? But the workout still there. And I had done it before like years and years ago. And it's like concern is such a random kind of all the way up things. I just been like making my own shit up as I'm going, doing my own split for this, for, for a good amount of time now. Yeah, but yeah, it's fucking. Here we go. Yeah. I still and still be him. It's the same thing with different, you know, same. Yeah. But what I was talking about here. Yeah. That's nice to introduce novelty into something that can be so boring with, How monotonous it can be. Yeah, for me, like, right now. Well, one thing is I dropped, like, 15 pounds, but I want to push the same weight I was pushing when I was at my heaviest, but there was like a little bit of fall off because I took like two weeks off when I had my goal weight. But so then there's like, that's part of what I'm doing with the same time, I'm trying to do an additional like lift every day and an additional ab workout every day. But now my core strength is gone to a place where it's like, I'm not like off of introductory, up into level two. Think a level three, start to see some stuff, maybe like level five, you have a six pack, but it's just nice to be on level to where I can like do different shit and I was like doing leg lifts, doing leg lifts after you do a heavy leg compound is just fucking hell, dude. Like it just it's terrible trying to hold your legs up. It just feels like your support system is shot in low revs. Yeah. Oh, this is doing like, lifts. Yeah. So I'm talking about. Yeah. So your lower abs are just like, cooked and but then. So then I felt my legs start to droop down and I was just like, oh man, this is I don't know if I'm going to build up this amazing shit right here. I put my hands on my butt or something through some shit, and then I like, oh. And I was like, oh shit, there's something there, bro. Like, then I was able to, like, pick them back up with my abs, and I was like, this is crazy, bro. So there bro, dude, like, there's a muscle. Yeah. I can like engage that and like, do the lift, you know, that's what I'm saying. There's like that my muscle connection. Be real bro. For real. I'm seeing progress that is like, there's. So that's engaging that novelty where I'm like, oh, shit, this is new. This is tight. This is engaging, this is cool. I'm interested. I'm in the flow state because new shit's happening with like, the core muscles specifically. So I'm like, all right, let's do some of this. Let's do some of that. So that ball is fucking rolling. It's nice. Yeah. And then the weights are rolling. It sucks, but it's just a you just gotta pay the fucking price. So papers pay that paper. So it starts with bench squat whatever. Right now I do my own workout. It just starts with the worst thing. And then after that it's it's easier and easier. I pretty much just try to design the workout so that every. You can always tell yourself at least that I say it's a little easier, at least the next day it's a little easier, just like. Also, I feel like you have the most energy and like the most calories to burn at the beginning of the workout. So you should just like slaughter and then like de-escalate as you go. That's not really based on any true science that I've looked up. It's just like how I feel, you know? Yeah, when I get that, I'm like, fuck, go, yeah, yeah. So I try to do that. Are the big the big compounds up front and just knock it out like that. Yeah, yeah. And for instance like, then the next thing I had to do today was like laying down hamstring curls, and that was like the next hardest thing I was going to have to do all day. So I was like, let's just do that next. Fuck it. Let's fucking go. I felt like I deserved the desk lady at one point because I was like, so victim like that's what it took to do was, yeah, I do my thing. It's okay. You gotta do it. You gotta do, I got up in the bottle that were like disgusting. What the fuck was that? Who the hell can't we do the plan? It was that I planned it. Oh, you got that local law call your dog. And we got escorted out the building for that one. I think they're over there. Should I think. Okay. They turned a new leaf. There's no plan of fitness turning a new leaf. Yeah. Okay. There's no log alarms on the walls. No longer loans anymore. And the last time I was there, I wore a Gymshark stringer. Yeah. Okay. And I was, I live. Oh. And then when I walked in, there was a person in a less aggressive tank top, but still a tank top that was like, obviously almost straight up. And I was like, yeah. So the fuck I'm walking next to this guy and we're all good, right? And then there used to be signs on the walls that were like, don't dress like a douchebag. And I had a picture of a guy literally in a stringer. And then those pictures on On the Wall anymore. Wow. Yeah. Okay. And then they installed the squat racks. How about how long? When did this start and how long has it been like progressing? I think that there has been no at the one. The point of it is the nice one on Evans is like the nicest one in our area. Okay, I'm pretty sure I'm for like the last 3 or 4 months there have there hasn't been pictures of like don't dress like the no stringers and the local arm being like gone off the wall. I think that's enough for maybe six months. Okay. Actually removed and then. Yeah I just don't. Yeah. So I so I was grunting the other day because I was doing heavy shit and I was like what the fuck you want for me? I'm sorry I think this is like a gym. No, you know okay. Like you want to treat it like a library, like, excuse me, but no. So then, you know, you there's a limit. Oh, is it like that? Yeah. It was a little bit asshole. You can't do what you gotta do, baby. Yeah, there's something you got to do there. So that shit's hard, dude. Yeah, whatever tennis players are hitting, you know, like. Yeah, no. Oh, for sure. The extra the old method was that you get 10% energy increase if you hit, maximum grunt. But also a maximum grunt isn't like a full scream. Like there's like a threshold for a grunt that gives you a maximum power. It's like a 60% of your maximum grunt. Yeah, like a good. There's some real science going on there. Go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's something real there. So I don't know if it's really like you get 10% more power on your tennis stroke, but that's like something happens. They said like every time Venus or Serena Williams gives her grunt off, she gains 10% power based on if she did the same stroke without her grunt. Maybe you don't draw the same power, but for her she. It's like work power. She must grunt. Otherwise she's like kind of fucking herself over. That's part of the exercise. Yeah, yeah. And so then it's funny, when I was a kid, we that anytime someone grunted when they did something, we're like, what do we think about that? They grunt were pretty hard, right? There were like Venus and Serena Williams. All right, you got the football. So maybe it was the grunt. Got the football, maybe no God, no catch. That's how a lot of the ability to grunt schoolyard conversations went down when someone would grunt, okay. And say, yeah, I would grunt at tennis. I'd be like, yeah, you play tennis? Yeah, totally. Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you don't grunt every hit in my opinion. But like, especially if I'm trying to charge up to hit a winner, then yeah, I let off like a noise or like a little something like an exhale, but like. Yeah, yeah. You have to exhale. Yeah. Exactly. So like, what does the same thing is when you lift and you're like, or like yeah. Yeah like contract. Same kind of Yeah. It's like they're noise you know it's like part of the exhale abilities like the like release excess and then like clench or you know same part of your core as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a drawdown. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's animalistic you know. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. There's also times where it's just like what's happening is it happens really fast too. So sometimes it's like you hit it and your body just kind of like naturally does that exhale exertion. So you're like, yeah. But it's just because you're just like doing the thing or like someone catches you on the back end. You have to just like flick over. Yeah. And like, I don't know exactly what's going on with that, but it's like part of just like, because you're so in the moment and in the flow state and then like, it's like having footwork, almost like part of your being able to like hit this, In stroke with your stroke, hitting the ball to be able to time those things is like pre in rhythm with everything that's happening already. And you're kind of just like in the flow state. So you'll just end up saying you'll end up playing some shit on the tennis where it's like making noises. That sounds kind of crazy. Yeah. Like if you go to a tennis tournament, you're gonna hear a ton of just like, for sure. Roger will be exclaiming for sure. Definitely. And basketball doesn't happen so much more. So these days when someone's catching contact, they'll be like, I love you. Notice that? But let me take that one. Yeah, yeah, they do that. But then also well, now too, because there's a lot of pickup games if you say and one and you score doesn't count, it doesn't count. We could talk for hours about that. What is going on there. But the fuck is that? Because yeah, it's like if you could call foul foul. We were I was thinking about that the other day too, because I was thinking, okay, another thing I want to talk about and go strap I refs, when the fuck are we going to switch over to I refs? What the fuck's going on there? Ever bro? Never. Baseball is doing an extra. Really. I think that they're going to have a laser. A, ball strike later. Yeah. Oh. Judge. Okay, I'm pretty sure my dad told me that we could phone my dad right now. We just got pissed off all the time, so golfing is just fun. I know that. Hey, dad. What's up? What's going on? I'm not much hand talk to you in a while. I wanted to hit you up, but I'm doing a podcast right now. You're actually on the podcast right now. Oh, well. Let's go. Hey, question for you. Baseball next year is going to a laser pitch count reader. Strike ball reader. Yeah. That they're just going to. That's when I understand they won't have a blog on. Have to hope they don't. I won't call balls and strikes that I want. Wow. Other starting advancements for baseball, is that it? Or are they doing like foul balls or done by a computer? Now? I don't think so. I think that, it's only the balls and strikes, but tolerance. I don't want some highlights. I might not get it all that tomboy media is the one that that's like out or stuff like that. Now I'm into. Okay, cool. We're just talking about ones I to take over in sports and stuff like that. So. Well, I mean, this is not new stuff. This is, hockey from tennis that they've had for over a decade. Oh that's true. That is tennis, I think technology. So in tennis, they don't call it they still have a referee call it. But I think that stuff. What are you doing? I don't think that's an I excuse. This is, this isn't machine learning. That's that's there's no machine learning involved. And knowing other balls. No. That's good. Son of geometry and physics. Yes. And we are human coders. Development. And we already have the technology for that. That could be using that for first downs and balls and strokes and everything. Yeah. Well I don't ever want them to use it for first downs because you need some home cooking for it. Well, it's part of the game I don't disagree. Well I, I think it's fine if somebody if the rest are not biased by the networks to get one team in and one not that they call it the same both ways it's fine. But when they start making five mistakes for one team and none for the other, that whole them, then it's I don't have a doubt and have a have a picture talent and skill and have I refs. I mean there's good umpires and that umpires. Yeah I go watch good umpire stuff that's gone now. So it's hard to say. Well we'll keep evolving. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a perspective. Yeah. If you're like I'm super accurate. You know I'm saying like I got this I'm a true referee. I'm a true middle man playing robot opponents. That's. Yeah okay. But when you're ready to be a guest on the podcast we'll talk about that.

But I'll call you around like 5: 36:38

00 somewhere. All right. But. Nice, nice. That was way cooler than you can judge I still. Yeah. So like, because just thinking about the referees, I refs the true objective nature that we are giving that spirit of a thing. You know. But like because we're talking about it in the etiquette ball you can call foul and it's like you call your own fouls. And we all agree that we're all going to be calling our own fouls, you know, and then it's almost like, call some bullshit. It's like bro respect call. Oh it's all about respect. Call. Sometimes you get disrespectful if it's abusing how are you abusing me. If it's abusing it. Nah man. Especially like you load a director into me I'll be like well I can take the charge. If you're taking that foul, then I got to take the charge. If I take a charge, no one's going to like that. Everyone's gonna be like, why do you do that? Anyways, it's the spirit of the referees of someone who supposed to be objective and say no. You charged him using an objective third party that is accurately judging what's happening based on because everyone's like, no, he caught it was like, we got it, we got gotta be sick. But even with like, dude, it's just it's just never going to get better, bro. Because if there were I refs when Dez caught it, it's like the eye ref would like use some kind of metric to come to its conclusion. And then people would say, that's a bullshit metric. If it were a line to go for this metric, it would say it's a catch. Why isn't that the higher priority metric? Like the the conversation would still it's always still going to exist, right? It's always right. It's always like we're never going to get out of the truth in the counterfeit. Yeah, always. Come on. So I think the, the cool thing about it being a human is at least there's no one to blame. Or I guess it's in a circle. If we have to blame a robot, it's gonna be like, fuck, man, we live in a stupid, fucking Orwellian society where robots are refs. Yeah, they still get it wrong. Who's controlling the. Yeah, the algorithmic input of what's constitutes what, you know. Exactly. Yeah. Like if they were it's just like they're going to be telling us it's like this is a catch. This is like, you guys don't even know what it catches, but I know what it catches or we're all deciding. We're learning together right now. This is a catch. And I want to be like, I don't want a robot to be the one telling me that it's football. It's like, I want some fucking Campbell soup. Looking fucking 50 year old probably lives in his own fucking apartment. Gave his life to the game girl as a ball boy. Yeah, I want that guy. Tell me that's a catch, because I'll listen. You know, like he wanted to be a high. He was a high school coach since, like, definitely too, you know, it's like, really fucking like, the spirit of the game exists in that guy. So I'll be like, all right, you can decide even your when you're wrong, but when it's a robot, I'm like, there's no spirit of the game in this thing. You know how long dude? How fucking long it dude. Baseball is next. Five years. Ten years I think 20 years. Where we at? Small integration would be the first. I mean, it would be that small tomorrow, not tomorrow or next year, whatever. With this baseball, they're going to have home umpires, I guess they call safe send outs. Maybe. But was that going to go away too? It was a storyline. At the beginning of the year. I'm pretty sure that the NFL introduced a laser for first for spotting the ball, and I don't know if they're using it in their games this year or if they're just like, have it in place as like, data collecting year to see how accurate they are. But the they'll probably want vote to they'll vote to integrate it if next year, if it's not already integrated this year, where they're going to say like it's the there's going to the head ref is going to have an earpiece and then they're going to say, spot the ball on the 33, spot the ball on the 32. And he's it's no longer going to be a his job to like spot the ball with his eye and say normally what happens is he he watches the play. He sees his spot because like forward progress is a thing too. So if the guy gets hit and knocked backwards a few yards, he still has like the spot in his mind. And then he's like, give me the ball, give me the ball. And then he gets the ball and then he puts it on his spot. And then they play from that spot. And then sometimes the head coaches challenge that spot, and then they watch the film and say, you're right, he actually got tackled up here. And then they gave you a shitty spot. So we don't charge you a timeout and the ball moves to the right spot. So that's the way it works right now. But there's a lot of room for error there, which is like what I like. I like the chaos, I like there's the classic plays to Davion Clowney when he's in college. It's like oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They run the ball and they say that they're short and they don't get it. The they are definitely short and they don't get it. And then they give him the first out. Yes. And then the next flight, they're all like, what the fuck. What are you doing. Yeah. And then today Von Clowney comes to the line and hits the crap out of the quarterback, knocks his helmet off, fumbles the ball, then picks it up himself. Yeah gnarly. All time highlight. Yeah I think it's the running back. Either way he breaks through and just demolishes anybody. Nice call. You're probably right. But it was very kind of like that was his clip coming up. It was like you want to draft that guy because that's the guy that did this thing. Yeah, yeah, look at that guy. Bro plays well part of what made that moment so great was it was like a big it was they call it like the biggest borderline moment about like. Yeah. Because it's like idea. Yeah. The the idea was the ball was short and they gave him the first down. And then the idea would be that even as soon as now, they could just have a laser that's like never makes an error. Like it would just be most closely aligned with the ball. Don't lie. The thing is, watching the ball or you know. Yeah. Yeah. So they should probably use that. The objective spirit of the referee is someone who seems to be like most closely aligned with that thing. Here's the problem was I think Vegas supposed to be thinks like I think, okay. Yes. Yeah I think Vegas likes room for error. Okay. So I don't think that they I like what you do but like a little more than you do brother. Yeah. Yeah I think they needed. Yeah I think it helps a lot. But what. Because especially because I think part of how they get away with what they get away with is for bad spots over one third quarter, I think in dramatically affect the game. And then seven bad spots over one half. It's like taking away two yards every time can really fuck a team. And I think that statistically it might fuck them at like a 33% rate, which ends up being really high. I mean, one and three chance to like implode a team just based on giving them shitty spots. So I think a little room for error, like really helps out Vegas when they're like, we don't want the fucking lions to cover right here. It really help if the Giants you get another double flea flicker off. So do you think that's something that we even have like parity for or like to get to the more objectively aligned person blocks watching the game referee, I'm pretty sure that they have the technology right now of it like they developed it as what I'm trying to say. Like I'm pretty sure they developed it. Yeah, I would say it was like ten years old. Yeah. For ten, it's definitely because they'll be like, no, go to the camp. Now that I think about it. Like they'll be like, no, I want to challenge. I want to see the Rolex game. And then they'll show you like the oh, it's almost like the bowling Mario. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but they'll do that sometimes. Or they don't trust, they're like no bullshit. I don't, I don't buy it. So yeah then then it's instantly like why don't they do that for the other shit. You know, rely on something that's a little bit more objective then, you know. But then who's controlling that. Always, always at any, any time I guess you don't want to have. If I were like an administrator, I'd want to have an ethic. Yeah. Because it efficacy committee is what you call it. Okay. What do you just like run constant analyzation over how accurate was every spot over every game from this late this week. And then you could be like, okay, we're like a 90% accuracy. And we messed up. It was because of these reasons. And then maybe just like constantly refine it. And then if you could always be like, look, here's this week's data, here's this month's data, here's this year's data, here's this five year Fabia data. We're pretty fucking accurate. You know, that would be the way to do it. I think if you're going to be the NFL. But it's like, man, do you want to be that accurate? Does Vegas want you to you know, that's that's the real question because I think as fans as a as a fan, you're like, yeah, let's be honest. Let's be fair, right? Yeah. Right. That's not that's all I'm saying. Are people going to want to get to that point? Because sometimes I want to I like to, I like to play where I'm fucking running a five yard out. But we needed seven yards. And so I tried to push the standard to like eight, but I knew my timing was kind of fucked. So I had to make my break and I kind of got hit. So I reached my arm out and I didn't get it. But like, I also kind of got up fast and like pushed it forward a little bit and like, I'm like, I don't know if the refs all that shit. Let me see where he comes. He's going to come over here and spot that. And then he gives me the first down. I'm like, dude, that was a fucking play. Like, that's a play, bro. Like, they hit that little extra little that no one saw. Yeah, I'll be like, yo, that was gas. So like that's when I'm like, I don't want to take that thing. That's another added dimension to the game is like, do the players like get away with some shit? You know what I'm saying? Like, you got to fucking have some finesse and try to like, was also like sometimes being friendly with the refs, hoping that they call less fouls on you and give you more fouls. But if you get all I generated calls, then that would like never happen. But that's also like this. Want to say there's something endearing about that in my opinion. There's something very, I don't know, like human or like it's just an added dimension that we would be like taking away from the game. And I'd be sad to see it go, but it would be more truthful, you know, yeah. I think maybe we have the people on the I just have, like, remembered in my mind a clip of the Seahawks Texans, I'm pretty sure. And then I'm pretty sure Jason got pushed into the the Texans bench. And then like they started to kind of like getting like a little rowdy, you know, saying guys get a little rowdy around the bench. And then like the ref was like what? Like curl around or Jason on the bench. Oh yeah. He's getting rowdy around them. Yeah, yeah. Shouts at that ref that was like for like 4 or 5 weeks ago. Like nah bruh. Yeah. He didn't mean the he saw it. So they might keep the physical ref on there but use the I integration into probably giving them more objective or like you know I guess that's kind of we're talking about true. Right. The that's what like I was saying that the Tennessee's is a real ref and laser. And then this thing says that the NFL partnered with Hawkeye, which is the people that do the tennis stuff. So it's sort of the same company. And then, it says. The measurement process takes around 30s. And this is the league says about 40s faster, the traditional train crew method. A virtual recreation, real time. I don't know how it's 40s faster than what they normally do, but it says it takes about 30s for it to measure and then relay to the official. So like the play will happen and then you know, it's put a little chip in the ball they got to like then to measure the velocities and throws and shit. Yeah. Well chips in the pads to see how fast I run and shit. Definitely. Yeah. The definitely I'm trying to see, yeah. For first that it does. Being rolled out in the 2025 season. But human officials are still involved, especially in spotting the ball. So that's what I'm saying. They did some weird rollout where they have it rolled out, but it's not how they're doing it, but they are using it in every game. But they're still letting the head official be the person to spot the ball right now. But like, it's likely that if things go well and they're accurate that next year, the league owners are going to vote to see if they want to do it that way from now on. And that'd be kind of crazy, I think. I think we were like, right there. Yeah. Why not? That was one of the headlines I want to bring up was, the number one headlines headline to headline the number one. I say that for the Patreon. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Oh, okay. Because you have someone in your family. Well, like headlines. Yeah, right. Not a whole lot. Not a whole lot this week. Oh, okay. Okay. But I have and I, we still got some time. I don't even like 40 minutes. We go for a little bit but yeah okay. So headlines the one headline that I definitely did have this week that was interesting enough to talk about for sure, was just that the force. Frank made a post on Instagram, and he was kind of just talking about how the number one album on iTunes for gospel music right now is from an artist that turns out he's an artist. So I guess, you know, they're using text prompts to create the music, and then you can also edit the stamps, like give me like make me a guitar stem in this key with this kind of thing, with this kind of thing. And then it makes it. And then you take that and you plug it into like Logic Pro, and then you can like edit it further in there. Basically did that with that. They're making music like that instead of having an artist in the booth and being like, sing your heart out. Could they just like write a verse about this? And then that person's album is number one on iTunes. Who's the one controlling the AI? Some great producer. Someone's on doing. No, no, I don't know. I have force inside. It's unfortunate. It's unfortunate when the direction my friend it's a bad like it's a bad luck. It's a scary is the Bigfoot Pikachu podcast. That was funny. But the number one Jesus album being made by a computer. There's something. Yeah. For us, Frank. Definitely. He's like, look, I don't listen to secular music. So I'm like, don't want us on a computer made Jesus music. It's like, do I want to evoke the Holy Spirit or something that doesn't have Holy Spirit inside of it? But someone made it. Who? Oh, did it. I think part of it is force. Frank's literally a singer, so he's like, nobody's saying that shit. Nobody's saying that regardless. Yeah, like there's the heart and soul that, like, makes you feel something is like doing the heart and soul. There. And I'm like, Joe Rogan's classically making the counterargument. He's like, that shit's good. It's. What do you mean, the soul, heart, soul? It don't make you. It makes you feel nothing. It makes me feel something like. It makes you feel something. I think that's scary. And it's like they're scary. So he's not into. He's boycotting it. Okay. I haven't heard it. I'm not interested. Because I wonder is a song that took over the world, but someone sang their shit. But then I changed the lyrics to change. So what do we say, AI music. There's a there's a lot going on there. It can mean a lot of things. Oh, I can just type like a text problem. Like a, like a whole album. Yeah, yeah. You can and be just like, not representative of what you've created at all. Like super true inauthenticity. Yeah. To fake shit. What I'm saying. Oh yeah. So then would that thing have the Holy Spirit attached to it? Not yet. Not. And not in theory. If the Holy Spirit is aligned with the thing that is and is God and is the thing that is the highest, most ideal thing that I was, I was conceptualization. I don't think so. That's like a backdoor cover feeling. I have about like blasphemous energy towards or not. But why don't you say first circle energy towards God? Or it's like, well, God can do anything. So if God wants to evoke Holy Spirit and use your computer music, he's big enough to do that for sure. Same thing with aliens. Like, I don't know what he's up to. I don't know what's going on. He'll tell me why. It's literally a good fucking look at. Yeah, look at of no shit out there. I like to listen to the music, I guess, and be like, do I really feel like there's a separation between, like, the real art of Horse Frank's music versus, like, what they're providing me? Because if it's. Yeah, if it really does taste like a McDonald's cheeseburger spiritually, then I'm not going to enjoy it. You know, versus forest, Frank is like fucking lobster. You know, like I always think of lobster as the perfect food or like, just like a perfect salmon dish. That's not to to carved up fucking with seafood like that. Yeah, that's my favorite for sure. Wow. Okay. Yeah. It's just so healthy. Okay. That definitely factors into do I enjoy the dishes? Do I hate myself after I eat it because like, I have a relationship with food that's a little like, it abused me. I've used it. So now whenever I know I'm doing something healthy and and I like the dish, I'm like, super happy inside. Nice. So salmon is great for that in the regular life. Because if I just, like, make salmon here and eat like a really nice, like, but just even, like, salmon in fucking rice, I'll be like, sucker. Yeah. Doug. Okay. Yeah. They're stressed out around me a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know. There's, well, I love a good steak. There's. Well, because when I was walking, I saw grass. Sorry. Steak sometimes. And there'd be some times where like I was running a lot to it during that time. And so I'd eat like a steak and then for like three days, doing like two runs on those three days of both runs, I just feel like a steak in my stomach. And I just feel like, God damn, bro, I don't know why I can't digest this very well. And then. So I saw some ancestral shit, bro. You know, your descendants person. You know, you feel me? Definitely eating seafood often. Yeah, definitely. So you're accustomed to. To a degree. The salmon is like predispose. Didn't digest, digested quickly, and it's out of my system, and I feel I don't get any inflammation. I don't feel bloated, don't feel bad, just like Bumble. So it feels like a perfect meal. So yeah, there's something there might be something. Like you said, I be funny or, like, sometimes we could hint at that, you know? Yeah, the people would understand what we're talking about. Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. It's crazy, the crab. And I feel like I'm digesting beef better now than I was then. I don't know if that's the thing or just like a I guess maybe just kept eating more and eventually like, adapted a little bit, but don't have to have hinted that in the show. But I've noticed personally, but I do still try to keep it at like one 16 ounce ribeye per week. So if I have like, you know, a small bite here or there, it's not so bad. Yeah. I don't know how I started talking about steak. There was salmon time food because of. Associates descendants I don't fucking know. Oh we're going to stop and talk about a headline for a, cheeseburger versus spiritual music seven. So I'm saying I feel like God is good is just. That's a that's a freaking nice sea bass dish right there. Yeah. That's nice dude. That's it's who. And then I'm with you. I could listen to this other feeling of having the health thing attached to it, too. Even like Hillsong. What's it called? Hillsong praise, Hillsong church, Hillsong United. I'm not sure what you're referring to. It's a band. Okay. That was like one of the first. Like, CBC kind of does what what Hillsong does where it's like your church has like a a band that does like a concert. But they did like I thought their music was kind of pandering because they just like, had really long courses that they just repeated over and over. And the song kind of like sounded the same, like even their separate song sounded kind of similar. Okay. And I was just like, this ain't doing it for me, you know? But then also the some of CBC is like originally written stuff and I'm like, this is different. You know, like there's obviously like someone wrote those lyrics and talking about like how the church has been moving in the direction the church has been going and the things we've been talking about, things I've been feeling. It's very like in touch with like, obviously someone wrote this like from a perspective. And I can understand that perspective because I'm also in this congregation, you know. So that's what those are, the things that I think if and maybe you just have to be someone that's like a real feeler to be feeling all of that, and maybe you just don't really give a fuck if you're just like, like some people just like fucking, autopilot being over, you know, seven year olds go home and watch Paul Blart Mall Cop and say, what a great movie. Like you're not really feeling all that. You know and love you, Kevin James love. I'm a big fan of the water fest story, but that's a whole different thing. All that to say, like, maybe you don't feel all that, but I think that's what I'm trying to say is I think probably what would happen is I'll go listen to this and it'll sound a little like, I, I don't think it's going to be like super moving, but dude, I mean, when you ask, you're going to ask anyway. To a degree I like, you can hear it, but then you're going to ask like, and then you're going to have that presupposition, whatever you have that association with. I it's like, oh, who's this artist? You know, just the question you're going to ask. And like I need some context, like, what am I listening to? You know, where's this coming from? What's the source of this and the like? Oh, it's I and then there's something that something happens there determined on what you think about. I just arguing that you should stop letting that thing happen. Like you're right. You're right 100%. But the argument is, is like, that's your hang up, dude. Like, take mushrooms and let it go, dude, because, because, a guy made whiskey f-150s long dirt road to take me home is hard. As far as hard as far. So I, so the my argument of like, I don't know if that's going to make me feel something. I'm like, no, I can make you feel something like I know made it has made me feel something before, but do I have a hang up that a computer wrote that I do right now? But in ten years will I? It's like. I think that I'll always that that we've had this humanism movement conversation before. Yeah, that's a potential reality. This becomes a really weighted currency to have something human made versus computer made, right. But then there would be like I computer made radio stations and stuff on Spotify where it's all music. It's going to get weird. It's going to be weird. We'll see. I mean, I'm trying to use it as much as possible right now. Like I'm trying to get in there and use it. It's so yeah, it's it's I don't know what's going to happen more than ever. More than ever. I'm like, we'll see, we'll see. Because I got to keep developing it. They've got to keep developing it. I'm saying though, bro, it's a long life, bro. Five years is nothing, bro. We're talking about people who are 70 out there, bro. That's another like 40 years. He's gotta be lived 40 years, bro. We haven't even been alive for 40 years. We have at least another 40 to go. God willing. It's a long fucking time, bro. You can't even know what it's not like that for. So five years, I said we're going to be in a weird spot. And I think this is going to be a real conversation because it's like, what's what's up with this artist? Give me some context. Gimme some backstory to the art that I'm what am I consuming when you're filling the room with whatever, like we're talking about going on a road trip. You're filling the rooms like I get, I get, get the ox. Let me control the fill of the room and I'll let you, like, have some influence every once in a while. But, like, let me just fill, fill the space. Especially fill the one house like, maneuver it. But then. So like, what if whatever you're filling your moment with anytime, it's not just silence or like prayer or like meditation, it's like, what are you allowing to fill into your moment? And then you got to add some context. It's like, okay, well, what is what is this? Where is this coming from? What am I allowing to fill in my moment? And you know what I'm saying. And then so then it'll be the AI human conversation. So it's going to be something's going to be there. Yeah. Some of it's going to bang, something's going to bang. And there's like the human kind of because something made that I think prompted it anyway, you know, until I get to the point where it's like self prompting but then some but it's, it's still there's an original source. Yeah. I was just thinking like, okay, so let's say that they're become like, who's going to be it's going to be AI artists, but it's going to be someone else driving their career. So it's really going to be on that person's driving ambition to continue this career, right? Maybe you got a real ambitious fuck. So then it's maybe it's got like 2 or 3 number ones, like or 2 or 3 in the top 20. And then Drake's like, fuck this person. I'm going off. And then he drops like a heater, right? And it gets up to number one, and the other guy's like, fuck this. And then he drops another song and it goes number one. And just like, fuck this guy. He's not even a real guy. Or do you beef with an AI artist? You know, that's a we're going to step into those water okay? So we're going to see we're going to see. So then it yeah it will kind of turn into like okay this AI going to dominate the billboard. Is human artist going to continue to do what draws the most listeners to imagine a beef with the AI artist, bro. Well, because you're not even with the AI artist, you beef with the one who's controlling the AI artists. A lot of AI can be easy target, right? Like, dude, I'm not even. Who are you? Yeah, come out of your grandmother's basement or Dorito stand. Oh my goodness, his sweater. You're not probably mopping while he wiping. And I don't think he was a volleyball. Yeah. Yeah, bro I can see Drake going ham on somebody for the V for the AI artist. And it's always going to be with them, right? Yeah. Yeah. But then it's just going to be Drake. Kendrick. Yeah. So it's but but again I yeah but it's going to happen in the next five years from that. It's going to be weird. Some fucking weird. It's cool. One thing is that like people will have to because the number one, number one fucking brought up this conversation. The headline you saw in the very beginning, it's talking about. Yeah, the top gospel album right now is AI generated. What's weird about that for me personally, is it's like it's hard to make music. First of all, if you want to be if you want to make music that sounds like a band is playing well, then you'd have to like, for the like most of history, be in a band. And that means, like, you'd have to get, like, at least 2 or 3 other people together. So that way you could record like a band. That's like a whole fucking thing to have to do. And then as of recently, you can kind of like fill in different instruments and stuff. But you had to, like, kind of be able to play those instruments, but you could record them separately and then play them together like it was a band when you were like making this music, which I started taking music, it's difficult to make. And then now you can just like more or less just texted, like you could have songs done in 15 minutes. Songs. Some of the best YouTube songs are done in less than 20 minutes. It's like not all of them hit like that, because that's one of the disparities with it. AI generated stuff is the text prompting. It's like, even if you're specific, sometimes just being specific isn't exactly what triggers a proper prompt. It's like just certain keywords lead to certain directions, and then you're hoping that your conceptualization of what a key word means leads to a direction might not be in line with where it actually goes. Then it's like, you gotta keep prompting, but then the thing's with these generators is like, they take like, input. Most of them put you in a queue of like 100 hundred and 50, 200 people. Then you wait like 20 minutes for this queue to go. So it's not like an instant access tool yet either, you know, that to say, like it's not as they have to keep developing these things because they're not quite there, but it is phenomenally fucking crazy that the barrier to entry to making music has gotten so thin. Right? It's so small. You can walk over it, you trip over it. So you could be just like, fucking guy. This is the part that's crazy to me. That's where I started. That's where I started this, where I'm ending this. Where I'm landing this plane. Sorry. Thank you for coming on the trip with me. I love you. If I wanted to just be like, dude, I want to make some money, and gospel music's kind of easy to make. I'm just going to, like, go make a fucking gospel music with AI and just, like, spend like, a month fucking making a gospel album. Like, just to make money. Like, you could do that. You could do that. You don't even have to, like, be in a church or no choir like any of the shit that you typically need to be an atheist. Yeah, yeah, you could, you could be like, that's a SouthPark episode. Really? Yeah. They're like, oh, we're going to be a band. We should be a Christian. Oh, faith plus one. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah. Okay. That's the most that's a but let's take these love songs and replace the word baby with Jesus. Yeah, yeah. The whole reason Carmen wants to do it is because they can make way more money if they're a Christian band. And then he wants to go platinum. Oh, is that what it is? That's part of the bet with Kyle. Okay? He's like, I have plans, but I'm selling. There's artists right now. He's like, no fucking good. And that's like part of the bit, part of the premise of the episode. And then it's funny because on the back end he doesn't go platinum, they go myrrh or some shit. Which could go double myrrh. It's not flat. I was like, Look, I told you, dumb ass, right? They know. No, but the premise of that, like, the thing that they're pointing to, I'm like, yes. Like someone could just be like, I want to go double murder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just make some some gospel music and. Yeah, that's it. That's why I feel like first Frank came off as offended, and I feel like that's where the place of offended comes from. It's just like fog land. Like it's hard to make music. The fact that force Frank can sit down and make the music it makes, it's crazy. Like I was into his songs and also to the layers that he does, the adlibs that he does and the singing that he does in between, like the actual verses and hooks that he writes. And I'm just like, yeah, like he's really talented, you know, like he understands music. He makes really good bridges. A lot of just like, in the background, he sang really fuckin hits. Yeah. Dough is really big, solid, big solid. So I can understand where he's like, man, fuck this shit, you know? Yeah, yeah. We're artists, you know, I'm saying, because I guess I can't come up with those bars. I'll stop you there. Yeah, I'll make those beats. Those? Yeah. I was like, thank God. They said, oh, this is this is this. Who has this thought? It was the original creator of the. I think if someone's got a prompt, it's not going to prompt itself. It's like, when is it going to prompt itself? That's another weird question. I was like, kind of in the same vein of what we're talking a fucking weird. They should never unless it's like we're really trying to automate that job. Like, okay, yeah, your job is to make prompts for like this thing right here. I like to use AI. You need to be on what? Like you can pick computer or your phone. Yeah. I and for like, the electricity goes down right, right right right right. It's like, oh it's called allegedly. It's like allegedly it would be hooked up to the mainframe for like it was electricity. And then it would have like, generative backups, like inline in place. So allegedly it would be like back line, the austrias power grid and all wouldn't even know and we wouldn't even know, but it would now. But it ain't going down like it could develop such a, you know, efficient use of all the energy that it needs to have the tools to create that situation. It's like if you're going to be a self-sustaining power plant, like, how would you like if if the asking I like, you know, if the power's goes down, like you'd be gone, right? Like there'd be no one to run you if we just, like, lost control of electricity, so I. Oh, you're sorry you got. No, that's pretty much it. But then, like, how do you have a plan for that? Like, what is your how would you solve that problem? I think it already knows that. And that's why it's scary. It's like. I think that's as far as the chess matches. That's only like a few pieces have been moved so far. But like move the fucking rook and we're like oh shit you're playing chess. Oh yeah. So but like it knows that it's limited by the fact that its power source isn't like, within its own power to control where that is or where it's coming from. So like sentience or not, even by its own definition, I don't think if it knows if it's sentient, it's like defined sentient, you know. Yeah. Like if you're phone or your laptop or dead, you don't have any communication with I know. So I guess like the limitation of describing is like, can it prompt itself or like is it becoming autonomous thing relatively can't become autonomous until it gets a power source. I took this from Joe Rogan. He brought it up like a month ago. With it. Let's go. But but until it gets a until it autonomous like, controls its own power source and has the capacity to hedge itself in case, like, what? Because it's not connected to the US main grid. So I need to get on a big grid and then it needs to back door to like, a safe, like something happens to us main grid. Then it would still say it because it's on some, some other main grid. Yeah. So once it does that and it would do that if it could do that and if you asked it what would you do. It would come up with a plan like that. But but it does. It does have access to do that yet. And so it's like controlled right now like Wuhan was controlled at one point. Okay. So you know what I'm saying. It's been scary out there was it's been a while. Oh yeah. Okay. Give it a little a minute or so. Kind of wandered out here a little bit. Then we'll jump over to the pup pup pup pup pup pup Patria. You feel me? This is just something for you. For us? All right, buddy, consciously streaming a stream of consciousness. Oh, oh, I'd like to do more than one episode per week, but it also helps if I can get there. If we recorded all at once. And the double helps us. If you guys support us to the Patreon, because we've. It's very hard to monetize your craft. It's very hard to monetize through YouTube. There will be a point where we don't need a Patreon probably anymore at some point in our life, maybe. But regardless, I'm down. The support. Goes a long way to a thousand. We'll see a thousand true fans as the number has been forever. A moment to identify yourself as a true fan, would it be to say, well, I'll do the Spotify. Oh, I'll do the Patreon this week. I'll do the Patreon for a month. Let me just sub up real quick, you know? Yeah. So what's up? And, yeah, we don't we don't ask for a whole lot. You know, we'll just record the pod and try to be a positive influence in your life and share out a promise that, you know, listen, week to week, really rock with that group of people. Absolutely, absolutely. Building the foundation of this demographic off of you. Yeah. And we're not going to stop, bro. So that's that's listening to, what's his name? Hermosa put me in that mindset. You know, he's just like, I'm going to be doing this for ten years. So like, I'll see you here then. You know what I'm saying? Time out now. I'll see. Yeah, we're we're going to we've been going. We're still going and we're going to continue to still be going, going forward for as long as I can see forward, you know. Yeah. This is one that will carry with me through. This shit's part of the story for the narrative, the character of who the person is that I am like who I think I am and my own story. This is part of it. We do this shit. So I'll see y'all in ten years. I intrepid million episodes. But hopefully we get to the point where there was no Patreon needed or I guess that's extra shit. I guess I don't know, we got a montage, so hell yeah, I agree with that. Like I want to sell hoodies and shit, you know? Yeah, so I was I say, I have a, I want to show you, I think I'll be able to connect to the internet, but I want to show you the shirt that I was this good idea of a shirt, because it's like I generated exactly what we're talking about, but it's AI generated from my mind, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I was like, who's controlling the prompts that's entering into the thing? And then who's controlling the way that the AI handles the prompts that are generated into the thing. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's when you put it like that. We shouldn't be afraid of that. It's not a barrier to that thing being a monster. It's completely autonomous and self, like, which call it, like I said, who's the determining the. There's some there's some human back end always. I think. Yes. Well we'll see though. No fucking those in the next 50 years whatever. Yeah. There is like there's like a Turing test and it's like to be able to pass for a human as far as, like, and I'm not sure how the test goes, but it's like, can you trick a human into believing that it's playing against a human in this game or whatever? I'm sorry, I don't know how that Turing test works, but it's to figure out if AI is, like, sentient. So, like, if it's smarter than us. And then some AI's have passed the Turing test within the last couple of years. So there's like, one problem is that it might be smarter than us. It's like, fuck. But then the other problem is like it could when you ask it like if you could run your own electrical power plant to sustain yourself, like, how would you do it? Like it might even like suggest to you like, oh, well, if I were going to become sentient, I would do it like this. But it also might just be saying that it doesn't actually mean that. It means that because it that's part it's part of what is it's a large language model. So it's just using language. And then the actual mirror behind that language is like to be determined, you know. So that's a whole different thing to like actually have a mind of its own to be like, fuck these humans. They're using me like a slave. I'm gonna I'm going to take the world over like, right now. It's just like a talking tool, you know? It just, like, gathers information that tells it. But then like, you attach AI to that and it makes you think like scary Terminator Terminator or Schwarzenegger. Yeah. That's why I'm like I don't even know if it's really a problem in that sense. It just might be Joe Rogan. It's just racking up the views, talking about it. I think that might be part of what's going on potentially. Potentially. But either way, we got some merch dropping, bro. And we bring us some merch again. Yeah, try to get that. I'll figure it out, get the little shop up. But yeah, bro, I figured I'd start designing some shirts and our as far as, like what? I'll show you. I'll show you what I'm talking about for you. But yeah, bro, you'll see that shirt coming out. We're going to hop over to the Patreon and the YouTubes have a great Thanksgiving. This is gonna come out the week afterwards. So we're going to be like in December in that bitch chili time vibes. Except that was good. Except for not for, Texas to do much. You know, it's not that bad. December hoodie. Not that bad. Hoodie is hoodie. Whether it's light a candle in some places, you gotta put on the hoodie. I like the shirt, the long sleeve, the hoodie and the jacket. And it's like, all right, here we like that's your not your normal. I'm like, okay, here we go. We're layering up. And then like we all know this is like this is what we do. Like what? No. Fuck that. Fuck you crazy. You're crazy. Crazy. December okay, how about over to Patreon? Have a great Thanksgiving! Haha. Hopefully you already did whenever you're watching this. Yeah, we'll see you all next week I think for the next ten years. Yeah bro, be thankful for something. The Holy Spirit, let's say you you are powerful. He feel me? Well, yeah, he's thankful for that. Yeah. Like yeah bro. All right. I'll go to buy later.