MIC DROPS | Stand-Up Comedy, Advertiser Influence & Being Informed | The MJ38 Show #97 | Tyler Ford

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Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen. Episode 97 MJ 38 Show San Antonio, Texas. Matthew. Justin. Special guests Tyler Ford in the building. What's up dog? How's it going? Y'all is going amazing, man. Amazing. It's a good life, though. Super happy to have you here. Yeah, we're having a great day. It's a good life. Really good to see you guys again. Yeah, you too, man. It's a short contextual background. We know Tyler from work. Cool guy. Comedian, firefighter, hero. All comedian again. Never done, never done one of those thing. Not even. He does all those things. He's like a server extraordinaire. That one I can. Yeah, that. Yeah. No. Powerhouse. That one's like we're out here, man. All-American fucking linebacker as a top award. You know, I'm saying I feel like I need to put it in inflection when I say your name. Tyler ford. No. Tyler Moore. I was on that man's plug gap. I was one of the blockers on kickoff return in seventh grade. Yeah. Nice. You ever put someone's head on a swivel? Actually, I did have a couple tackles. I had a crazy tackling style. Was like a it was like a spider monkey attack. It was just like. Like the guy's run full speed at you, and you're run full speed at him, and you just jump in, like, wrap your legs and your arms around him. That's tackling. Yeah, that'll get it done. Take him down is all you need to do. Because I probably weighed about 50% or whatever everybody else weighed. I was tiny in, middle school. Yeah, middle school football. It's good times to good talks. All American name, though. For real. That's a that's a linebacker. That's linebacker Tyler. Yeah. It's like how like if you do something with that great name. They got Jerome Ford as a running back. Yeah he's a Browns right. Yeah. Nice. He's on my first team and he's he's scrubbed it. Dude. Fucking fantasy is back in full swing. So life is good. It's Virgo season NFL just kicked off yesterday first Sunday. By the time this comes out, it'll be week two. Regardless, life is fucking great. Birthdays are going on. Yeah. After. If we got to say as a podcast. Happy birthday to our host Justin. Preciate you. Let's go. Woo woo woo woo. Best friend. Anybody 32 years 33 years old on the board in the in the game. Just started the birthday morning off with the 10-K. Yeah we had a 10-K this morning my boy. Yeah dude we're just going to put down a 10-K in the hills. No problem. So we'll pop out to run in the fucking nature. That's a birthday right there. Start a day. Start a week. Yeah. It's awesome. I feel great right now. Yeah I feeling fantastic in the pod pods. Great. Always. Yeah. The pod loves you. We love you. Family loves you. Happy birthday to. Absolutely. Today your birthday. Yeah. It's that. Yeah, yeah. On the day I would have got you something that you could feel. Your presence is a present I feel me. We're so happy to have you on the podcast. Yes. And yeah, we've been talking about this for a while. We've been doing the pod for a while, and we've worked together for a minute, so. And you like it's been common knowledge that we do this and we talked about it before. So it's cool to get you on the pod. Absolutely. I appreciate you guys. Appreciate you guys having me. Yeah. We always have pod conversation at work you know. Yeah. My context for work is like I just tell you was like one of the funniest people that I've ever worked with. And then, you know, you don't really tell a lot of people that you do comedy. You totally stop telling the tables that. Yeah, I just thought it was such a gem inside there. Like, there's something about that guy. I'm like, I know, right? Yeah, but I'm just going to say even before I ever need a comedy, I'm like, this guy's hilarious. Yeah. Hey. Great conversation. It's always so funny. Thank you. Man. Circle. Yeah. I don't really like in and like the word context. Like when everybody knows everybody's kind of like, oh, darling, you stand up, like, asking me about all the time. And then I used to work at Longhorn Steakhouse, and there's a bunch of people that would be like, oh, can I come? Like, can I go to the one of the mice and come see you? I'm like, yeah, that'll ruin it for me. Like if I go and I see you there, I'm just going to go that are really awesome. But the ghost you I'm going to lose three minutes on my bit about you. About that. Oh yeah. Yeah. What's the word. Why? I don't know, it just it has to be like, I wouldn't mind if, like, you guys got the second week. I'm saying, you know, I wouldn't mind if you guys went because, like, you're my buddies, but, like, when it's like, just somebody that you work with, it just feels like that's like separation of church and state, you know? Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'd be the one. I shit where you eat now. I think it makes sense to me on an artist level two, it's easier to rap when I'm alone. Yeah, but if I had people from work, I don't know that. Well, like in the booth with me. And I'm trying to be, like, rapping the hardest shit of my life. It might be hard to, like, get in the zone and feel free. Yes, because you got this perception of you that people have. But when you're working on art, you're like, not really even tied to yourself so much. Yeah, I try to let the muse influence, try to create like, yeah, call me such a dope medium, bro. It's so cool, I love it. Yeah, I was like probably eight years old. I saw Louis C.K. chewed up on Amazon Prime or something. Okay. And that was like the one that I was like, this is what it's all about. That was the beginning. I haven't I don't think I've ever I don't see that many comedy specials, to be honest. I've only seen in my life maybe like ten, maybe. Yeah. But I know that they're fucking fantastic. So Chappelle is my guy. But I know Louis C.K., he's I've seen I think I've seen. I'm pretty sure I've seen one of his. And I was laughing my fucking ass off. Yeah, it was always talking about people like, you don't choose a tan colored car or you just you get a tan colored car, you know, choose tan. That's that's one of his best specials. It was so fucking funny. Yeah. He went on a dominant run. He was the best probably at that time. Whatever happened to that guy? He got canceled for some shit. Yeah, yeah, I canceled. Do you know what it was? Cancel culture. Yeah. He, he would ask women if he could jerk off in front of them. Okay. Yeah, I think I heard that on Joe, and I. I think someone thought that he was joking. That's when it, like, got bad because he's like a comedian, and they're like, yeah, yeah, sure, bro. And then, like, he's jerking off in front of them. And then I think that that person, like, made it a big deal. Yeah, a big deal about it. Yeah. Well the deal was, is that everybody he ever asked and like did in front of it was like, yeah, sure. Like everybody said yes. But the reason people said it wasn't okay is because he's the number one comedian in the world. And you'd be asking like low level women comedians. And so that's like a huge power imbalance. Yeah. Like they would feel pressure to say yes, there we go. There's a narrative I can appreciate. Yeah, this is extra insight because I knew a lot of the information until that part. Yeah. But oh you're sick. Fuck, bro. What the fuck? That's fucked up, man. I thought this was just like women. You were dating. Yeah. You know, like. No, no. Oh, like hookers or something. Yeah. Yeah, just some random hookers or some shit, but, that's just a waste of money. Yeah. Louis C.K., apparently it's a power trip. Oh, that's weird for me personally, though, art is like, it's like the NFL. I love I kind of love it. It's kind of messed up at the NFL. If you are not currently in prison, like, as long as you're free to roam the earth, you can play football like there's nobody gets like canceled. Like you might get suspended. But like, as long as you're not in prison or like, as long as you can play you and, you're good. You can. You can still get the work done. Yeah. I don't really care. About what, like, a musician or a comedian does, like, in there outside of, like, what terrible things they've done. Like, if I enjoy their art. Yeah. Kanye West, Kanye West, the ultimate example of that. Yeah. Right. Exactly. How do you feel about Kanye West. It's polarizing I think. I think it's the greatest producer of all time. You got lucky for doc. Yeah. Come on. On one hand it's hard not to agree with you. On the other hand, a Kanye West is somewhere. So producer it's like rapper everything. Like, would you like his hip hop? What do I think? You're about to ask me if I like his politics. No, I, he's a crazy man. He's amazing. He's a crazy man. But you make some good music. But yes, I hundred I could definitely. I'm in the same boat of the ability to separate. But to a degree, it's like if Hitler made a banger. I don't know. I don't know if Hitler made a banger. I. I would listen to it. Let's picture. I'm not going to go. I'm not going to buy a t shirt. You're like hot concerts. All right. There's a, there's there's a certain there's a certain level of or amount of separation that's like manageable for your own soul. Your, your consciousness depends on how good the song is too. Because like, it was like, hey, dude, but like, but Adolf Hitler. Oh, no. Like, if he made a song that touched the nation, we might be like, well, art from artists, you know what I'm saying? Like, separate the irony. Well, Joseph, John Lennon did a bunch of bad stuff. The Anthony Kiedis Red Hot Chili Peppers. I don't know if you guys know what he did for me. Red Hot Chili Peppers autobiography, he, admitted to I don't want to make accusations, but he admitted, okay, no, this is this is facts is facts. So, having sex with underage girl like Red Hot Chili Peppers? Very few people out there that make good art that aren't horrible people. Well, that's what I think that is. I think that we're making good art with skull. Making good art, dog. Let's go. Come on. Dog. Well, I hope there's not, like, a new story that comes out about yesterday's. It's 20 years later. Oh, God. He's terrible. He's a monster. Oh, I don't know. I think you just have to be, like a weirdo. You have to have, like, a special, like, kind of outsider brain to be crazy. Yeah, I do agree with that. There's definitely a. Yeah, there's only an element of that. A little insanity, I think part a lot of people that have that character trait, it ends up pushing them in a direction to be like a cracked person, like in a pool hall. For I am gambling on pool like those people Joe Rogan talks about in those kinds of settings. And then comedians who I don't know what you're saying is like. But the way Joe Rogan describes the comedians in L.A., they're like degenerates, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they come up, I don't know, the open mic like open mikes in San Antonio. It's a really weird particular scene. And, yeah, I remember I would be like 19 go into on and like, everybody would just be I've had multiple people that like invited me to like be on a showcase or something like that, and they're like, oh, I'll give you a ride. And then I like it's happened twice. Or I get into their car and I find out the reason they're giving me a ride, like, hey, blow into this or my car won't start. Oh no, it's a lot of, And I'm just like 19, just like, grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. All right? It's like culture shock, for sure. Yeah. So you saw the Louis C.K., and then at 19, you're going to the open mics. What was like the, you know, like, I guess there was that just that drive or you were saying, I want to do that too. Yeah. Well, that was in like the peak of Joe Rogan. Like 2019. That's when it was like it was still a little underground. It still felt cool. Like they weren't talking about Joe Rogan on Fox News every day. Okay. It's still felt like underground and like kind of cool. It felt like it was punk rock. But, I don't I think standup, it's gone through like a big kind of arc. And now it's kind of on the downturn thing. So, I think, I want to say that the new establishment that they built has turned out to be just as corrupt as the mothership that came before it. I don't know, I don't want to throw, too many accusations. Whoa. What the heck's, it's like the whole deal with, like, CNN and all the cable news networks forever. People have been saying they are just beholden to whatever their advertisers tell them. They have to say or not say. And they're like, oh, well, now we have the new media. We have, like all these new podcasts, and they can just say whatever they want. It's like now within a couple of years, they've been co-opted by the same exact thing. Now they all do ads for sports gambling. So you can never criticize something that's like, in my opinion, ruining millions of young men in our country. You're on some shit. Talk like preach, preach, brother. If you have advertisers, you're beholden to your advertisers. If you have subscribers, then you're beholden to you're the entertaining your subscribers. There's no such thing as truly free media. I feel like this is a pretty free. I feel like we're free right now. But if I were to come in and just wait till Meundies gets in here, dude, they're like, till hims gets in his bitch. I don't hims has some ideas about your content. Well, you shouldn't, shouldn't be able to say, yeah, it's Joe, it's Joe there. So I happen to know what's going on with Joey. I don't know, I like to think that. Oh, me. This. I don't hear him critique gambling. Yeah, well, he. I don't understand how you have, like, hundreds of millions of dollars, but you're still. Well, I get that he works for the UFC, but like, his thing on philosophy wise is if you're you're going to be able to do what you want to do. So I agree with that. If you want to fucking gamble, that's not my thing. But as Dana White's thing is, like, you want a snowboard, you go fucking snowboard, you break your knee. Yeah, you can do whatever the fuck you want and. And he thinks that for drugs, too, you know, I get it. I mean, yeah, like, I share I share a majority of that belief as well. Right. So. And that he might not dislike gambling, but I like your more, Western Christian viewpoint that gambling is evil. I don't necessarily think it's evil. I think it was fine when it was like you had to travel somewhere to do it, and it's like you're addiction only lasts as long as your trip. Or it's like. But now it's like you get ping, ping on your phone. Every day is like, hey, take this parlay. I take this. But like, how's anybody that has, like, an addictive personality supposed to resist that? It's sodas in their fucking face all the time. I see videos of these people where it's like they work a whole shift and they get out of their shift, and then they play one hand of blackjack with their shift. And that's the concept they make for the day, and they'll just lose. It's over. Like, I made 20 bucks, I lost alternative bucks. And then you watch them be like, fuck brown. And they got to go home and eat dinner, go back to work the day. That's it fucks me up, dude. You know, that's that. That reminds me that Black Mirror episode, bro. The fucking where the guy does the fuck that. In the most recent season that just came out the first episode, I'm pretty sure one of the first ones where his wife's going through some brain surgery and then they're able to, like, extend her life, but then they come into like a subscription program and he's like doing fucked up shit to make money. It's like, oh, it gets fucking deep out here. But like, they're going to expand her network and shit. Yeah, man. Fuck. But so you're saying like the pods are like that now to again heading in that direction I could definitely it makes 100% like logical sense as far as just the people who are in control want to remain in control by any means they can by any means that whatever's going on there, whether it's CNN or whether it's fucking Joe Schmo podcast over here. Yeah. Audience demographics we're talking to, the people are so influencing the information that's going from person in authority with platform informing public who are consuming this content, which is like 90% of people. Yeah. Pretty much I think, this is also like a developing thing. There's the Joe Rogan Peter Thiel thing that's going on right now. Do you all know about that, Peter, who is highly critical of Joe Rogan for other people on oh, yeah, he's like a billionaire that's like become buddy buddy with Joe Rogan recently. And, there's really scary videos you can watch on YouTube where it's like a compilation of the past 50 people on Joe Rogan. They're all like, oh, yeah, my buddy Peter Thiel told me I should come on this podcast. It's like, it's this guy just co-opting Joe Rogan's podcast. It's like taking it over and just influencing the guest, lineup more or less using it for his own wins. Like, it's like I said, I don't think there's any such thing as free media. It's always going to be beholden to somebody. That's what, that's what our pastor was saying. He's like, if the if it doesn't cost anything to use the product like you're the product. Yeah, exactly. So, like, hold on. So Peter Thiel is organizing Joe Rogan's guest list. Do you think that's what people are saying? Tim, that's an allegation he had on Tim Dillon recently. Yeah. And, Tim Dillon was, like, kind of poking fun at it. But that's been a thing for a while. On Joe Rogan. I still listen to Joe Rogan lot. Of course everybody fucking does. Whatever are you're talking about this? I'm just like, just not like, not just now. But, you know, Joe's fucking network. You know his reach. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Like, if you have who doesn't have a need for that or who couldn't use that in their favor. Yeah. Anyone and everyone. If Joe has access to 300 million people, I think that makes him crazy. It is really wild how wildly popular. Yeah, that, podcast is. I remember gonna say it's the most popular episodic media in human history. Yeah, it reaches more people than anything else. Oh, I remember we were working at the cement spot and oh, boy, he was in the marketing department. He was like 30, 31, right on time. We were working there. We were like 23, 24. Remember his name? Ben? Maybe. Yeah. And he was. Yeah. He was talking to Joe. He was not talking to Joe, talking to us about listening to Joe. And we were starting to listen to Joe. Are you were for sure. Yeah. And when, when did you start listening, Joe? Like around the like I was like 24 like that time. Yeah. Yeah. I would listen before I used to just be like, not all of them are funny. So that was like nine years ago. Eight years ago. Yeah. Ish. But now I listen to every single one. And the transition is just that. It's it's the it's the news like it is. Right. It's it's crazy. Like I used to be like oh I don't like this one. I do like this one. And then I heard Jordan Peterson. Well I started listening to it and then I followed through and it fucked me up, like, forever changed my life. You talked? Yeah. You just put me on that podcast. Different trajectory. I ended up buying the book. I read the fucking book, like, legitimately changed my life. Hours of YouTube. But that was just like skimming through it back in the day because I was to a lot of fantasy football podcasts, actually, was how I started with podcasting. There's some good shit. And I used to drive for a job, and then I would run out of fantasy football podcasts, and then I just everybody always said Joe Rogan was the biggest podcast. So then I'd be like, looking for someone funny. There's some that are always like Tom cigarets podcast. Oh, it's funny bro. Yeah, he's not even on there very much anymore. But the joy is always here bro. But now it's like, I, I kind of want to know what's going on. Like, even if I don't like the I guess I listen to the whole podcast pretty much. And that's like a different thing. I don't know, it's really integrated into your life. It's like, I'm at the early level. I'm I'm not quite listening to every single one of them, but I definitely listen to the ones that I think are going to be good or ones I recommend, or ones that, yeah, maybe have an interesting what I perceive to be someone who's interesting. Yeah, yeah, I probably only listened like 1 in 10, like just when there's a guest that I see on my feed like, oh, I'll listen to that. Really. And, yeah, I like Dave Smith, that guy. Yeah. I just, I just listened to that one too. He just gets annoying for me because he's always kind of whining. I felt, yeah, I felt I don't know, I felt right listening to that, you know what I'm saying? I felt like I'm a 32 year old man in America. I need to be on this shit dog or like in this sphere of thought, because I'm never I don't give a fuck about politics. I don't, I don't, and I'm not supposed to start my job. We pay people to do that. And I'm not supposed to be giving a shit about this, but like, it's people are so fucked up and corrupt, so it's nice to kind of get a general narrative of someone who's pretty biased and just, like, has a comedic perspective, literally stand up comedian. He's not a like a who's a professional in anything. You know, I'm saying professionals. It's a person who has a lot of information. Yeah. And person who's sought out and found information like they are a quote unquote expert on that, whatever. So he's like relatively at least well versed enough to give me a fucking dumbed down version. And I could like, take that dumbed down version. And it felt good to hold it as a 32 year old man. Yeah, 31 year old man doesn't do it. Felt good to hold it, you know. So definitely he's got it that I like Dave Smith a lot. But it was very negative. Yeah it seemed a little on the negative side though. Definitely highly critical. There's also be critical. There's lots of critique effects. Yeah for sure. Yeah. And our government is more oh man that does it doesn't it feel like after that podcast it's hard not to think our government is pretty corrupt. They all are like all governments. Yes, definitely. Right. I think they've been corrupt since way before we were born, man. Yeah, they've been corrupt since very beginning, but maybe since inception that perhaps whether or not that corruption works in our favor or not. Yeah, that's a whole thing. It's a matter of public record that more than one person shot JFK. Yeah, they just released that. They're like, yeah, we did it. What are you going to do about it? That is why I love the ending. Spoilers of Ozark's. I was just thinking about that like yesterday. I'll think of rewatching that show over the last couple weeks cause we're, like running out of shit to watch. And I do that in the queue of things that need to be rewatched. But I've seen it. I think I've seen the whole thing once. I've seen season one and two, maybe twice. But I know that that show, the way it ends, she's like, you can't get away with this. I've never seen Ozark. Oh no, my bad. Oh no, you're good enough. We should run a farm now. There's there's a. Yeah, that's that's definitely worth a watch. This thing where the watch will hear that that's not enough. Julia Garner, the one from that show. She was just in Fantastic Four and she was just in weapons, as you guys see. Weapons now, the best movie of the last ten years. You got to go see weapon I take so good weapon just came out. Yes. It's like a horror movie. Oh, Josh previews for that. It's like Josh Brolin. Julia Garner, the guy that played young Han Solo's in it. You're trolling bro. A horror movie is the best movie of the decade, I swear to God. Dude, I love horror movies. Okay, but but this one, it's like it's crazy twists and turns. I'll just tell you guys, okay? I'm down for twists and turns and good narrative. Bring me through a good story. The posters, like it's a bunch of kids running through the street in the dark,

and it says, like last night at 2: 21:05

17 a.m. all the kids in this one second grade class got out of bed, ran out the front doors, ran into the dark and never came back. And that's like, that's how it starts. That's like the hook is like a perfect, like, horror movie premise. You're like, this whole town is just falling apart. Or like, what the fuck happened? Why did all these kids run away? Sounds like some Shyamalan shit. Yeah, I'm into it. Sounds cool. That sounds cool. I have to give it a watch recommendation. Okay, I think I saw a preview for it actually yesterday. Don't watch the trailers, don't watch anything. But just look at the poster and watch the movie. I mean, you already got in. Yeah, it trailers, whoever cuts trailers together, I want to have a word. They fucking ruin so many movies with the trailers at this show. The coolest point in the movie? In the trailer, you're fucking like, I hate that shit, bro. Yeah, like, give me an example. Give some context here. It's like comedy movies. Like if they have, like six jokes in the trailer and none of them are funny, you have to assume that those are the best six jokes in the whole movie. Yeah. Or I just want to highlight like the preview for the movie, and then I go watch the movie and then like the climax was in the preview. So I kind of, like always more or less kind of knew where the story was heading. Yeah, that's fucked up in my opinion. Like you should. It should be like, gets you on the hook for it. But I tell you everything. But sometimes I feel like they're really trying to sell that movie. Like, they're just, like, all the greatest parts. Put it in there right now. They're trying to. They're trying to fuck. Yes. Yeah, they're trying to. Too easy. Yeah. That's trying to fuck. A good movie would be able to tease you properly. Right. That there needs to be depth, enough depth and nuance to the story for you to give me, just like random fucking shit, you know what I'm saying? And know that it's enticing enough still. Yeah, and a perfect world, a trailer. It would just it would be like the guy that made the movie. It just comes out. It's just him, like in front of the camera. He's like, just pitches you the movie? Yeah. This is what's gonna write, like, every trailer. Just be that. That's kind of hard in a perfect world to animate as he talked about it. No, maybe not even that. Is the guy, like, looking in the game. He's like, I just made this easy. Believe it is you. I made this movie called The Shawshank Redemption. Yeah. Andy Dufresne, wrongfully imprisoned. Escapes. Did he do it? Did he do it? Did come find out. Like, I mean, you it's a money. It's like a fucking. It's like a video. You're recording for a dating site or some shit. Yeah, yeah, that would be in the perfect world. In the perfect world. We're trying to tease the movie trail. It's a trailer, you know? Yeah, that's some of my favorite stuff is seeing, like, really brutal dudes on, like, Hinge and Bumble and stuff like that. Like videos of it all night. No, we see it. We see, like, like, yeah. Those meets or stuff where it's dudes messaging girls on handball or handball, on a bumble or a hinge or something like that. Like a dating app. Yeah. There's video. No way. Those those are always so much fun for me to read. Like those kind of things. I'm getting lost. I'm sorry. Those kind of like memes that you see where it's like, okay, okay, okay, or just like, girls, like taking screenshots of crazy stuff that guys, I know Kylie Jesus can enjoy that kind of stuff. Guys are the fuck you guys are the fucking worst. Yeah, it's such a cringe. But is that why you like watching it? Yes. Yeah, exactly. It's really good. Like cringe. Gotta. Are you are you cringing or are you cringing on their behalf? Which it's like separation layer. I just love cringe. Stuff like that. Like I love like I don't I don't go in for champ. I love seeing like for J and stuff wherever it pops up. And it's just like really brutal dudes that are just living the craziest lives out there that are just invisible to society. And we just get a little peek into their madness. That's craziness. Yes. Yo, yo, can I tell you about a niche that hits for me super hard? Talking about trailers. Love to. Do you ever like you're watching a series? And then in the series they're like. And in last week's episode and then in the recap from the last week, it'll stitch together things in a way that it didn't really happen, but it makes it super streamlined for like, what's about to happen in the episode. Yeah, but you, you remember watch and you're like, well, I didn't that dialog didn't even go with that scene. But I like the way that they fucking they really stitch that up for me. That shit's cool as fuck. And they try to see that. I'm like, nice, nice. Someone really cares. Someone gives a fuck about these recaps. Super. To the point. Yeah. Trying to accurately capture the narrative. Yeah. And then I'll be like, I'll remember the audio and I can see like them doing it in Premiere Pro in my mind, just like swapping it over. Yeah. Like I don't even want I don't want to watch the show, just make a compilation. I'll just keep on doing all this shit for this great production quality. I'm for sure. Game of Thrones did it like that. That was super pleasing to see that I would always skip the recaps because they're always like, spoil something for me. It would because it would put you on, it would put you. It would tell you where the narrative is going to show you like, oh, remember this guy that left like three seasons? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh shit. He's back. Oh he's in the recap. I wonder what's going to happen. Yeah, yeah. So you don't like spoilers? Yeah, we hate spoilers. You want to go and wrong I like yeah I like it right. Yeah I like to go in not to like raw. Sometimes I like my brain. Like there's so much information in this fucking universe. Like, which ones are important today for this episode, you know. But I don't like it when it's like she's. But it could. Spoilers. Yeah, yeah. There's so much drag and talk in that episode. You're like, something's going on with these fucking dragons. Yeah exactly. Man fucking trailers. Fucking podcasts Joe please. Oh is he CNN. Is he, is he the new dude. I don't think so. Oh wait hold on. So how does Peter Thiel play into it? I listened to the Tim Dillon podcast they were talking about. He's the guy that wants to do the Antichrist sermon. I don't know too much. Like I told you this, I'm never this is the first time I'm like, I think I've heard those words before, but I've never heard it as a name. And now I'm like, oh, I've heard that name before. Who the fuck is that guy? I don't know, I'm not into the billionaire, man. I'm not into like, the commie bullshit of like, or billionaires or evil. I think if you have billions of dollars and you're still, like, making moves, like aggressively trying to further your position, I think that's somebody that's not really to be trusted in general. But, he's, I don't know too much about the situation. We just got a weird amount of control over Joe Rogan there. Buddy, buddy. And also, it's been a thing on Joe Rogan for a while where, like, somebody brought up Jared Leto to him and, like, the weird stuff that Jared Leto has done. And you could tell Joe Rogan's, like, been hanging out with Jared Leto off screen. And he's like, well, come on there, don't talk about that. And like, Who's Elon Musk? Like some will criticize Elon Musk and Joe's like, yeah, but he's a good guy. And I've seen who's whose side are you on right. He's definitely six up for his wall Elon. Yeah. Do you want to push some fucking P. He's pushing arguably the most in the world. Yeah. So you want to be on his good side if he's a temperamental guy. You know Elon's about to be the world's first trillionaire. Tesla is going to pay him $1 trillion. Dude. Joe Rogan is positioned himself between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. What's after a trillion 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 quintillion quadrillion quadrillion. And you're making that up. No, no, because it's billion B by and then try quad. Oh god Charlie sextillion septillion dude octillion first octillion a decade second duck a million. Yeah. There's that first dodecahedron millionaire. Dodecahedron. Millionaire. Googolplex millionaire. No. Fuck. First trillionaire. Yo, this is so much money, dude. I can't even conceptualize it. I can't even think about it. I could live off $1 million for the rest of my life. Steve, back in the Steve podcast, that's. You could live off $1 million a year for 20 years. Yeah, dude. Or I was just going to say you could literally put that fucking shit into a bank account and, like, or a savings account think it's like 3.8% interest a year or a yeah, $1 million fucking. Come on, a billion is a million, million. And then a trillion is a thousand billion, even 38 K of a month or a year for free or a thousand billion is insane. A thousand, billions and billions. It's hard to fucking, you know, we're not going to touch it. Did you want me to really boil your egg right now? So the national scramble is $37 trillion? Yes. Do you know how much money there is in the entire world? There's about $80 trillion in the world. We owe half of all money to. Nobody owe to ourselves. Right. Only a small portion of the national debt is like owed to, like, China or whatever. The vast majority of is treasury bonds. We basically borrow money from our future self future, so we pay interest on it so that even still has money. Still, as a meaning. But most money, half of all money is just made up, dude. And the thing is, if you're a politician, you're just I just got to propel this bullshit for another 30 years. Yeah, until I die 30, 40. I'll be out of here in a little bit. We're making enough money that my kids won't have to do this bullshit. They can just go to Turks and cake. Fucking chill, bro. We're good. Yo, yo, what the fuck is money even, bro? I just agreed upon value. It gets weird because it gets less about money and more about, positioning. Yeah, what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. Bullshit society you've developed for yourself. Because why do people even want to position themselves in the. What are you doing? You know what I'm saying? There's some kind of societal oppression happening in our world. Yeah. There's someone for what kind of personality type do you have to have to seek $1 trillion. What kind of people? The only the like, I guess what I'm trying to say. Like, maybe like the craziest people. Like, I'm talking about, like, the crazy people made the art. That's another crazy form of people that make all the money. Yeah, yeah, probably Elon Musk. You want to make all the money when you think of like a CEO money, whatever the fuck that is. If you want to think about like, what's the fucking Christian Bale movie? Batman, American Psycho, American Psycho. Yeah. Like that kind of what Wall Street could throw cold hearted. Not actually crazy narcissistic. Yeah. Like, do anything to get to the top kind of person. That's one person. But I don't think Elon Musk is like that. He's like, I think autistic and so smart that he scales things on that level legitimately. It's like how much money I could make $1 trillion. Like I actually could I can actually see that shit in here. And so when he applies himself, it's like every dad's like, you just got to focus on like when he focuses, it's like, build a Tesla fucking flies a rocket that can fly itself. Yeah. What the fuck is that? That's not normal shit, bro. Yeah, that's not normal shit. At all. That's why he's pushing speed on. Yeah, like, who the fuck else is doing that? People make airplanes, but no other company makes rockets, bro. You know, self flying. When I saw flying, whatever the fuck it did, however, landed wherever that thing was. So I think he's he's a different kind of crazy, I guess what I'm trying to say. Yeah, he's a different category. Yeah. I don't think he has that. But I guess you were alluding to like the personality type that might be associated with this Peter Thiel character, who might have $1 billion and is actively seeking more positions. There's one thing, guys, what if Joe sees this, I like I would love to we Joe. We might also bring up our rhino. Okay, we're going to be the new Joe. Fuck that dog and the 30 year old bro. Fuck you just told the world I love you, Joe. Let's wait till bet MGM shows up. Hahaha. No turmoil, no stay at all. Christ, dog. Yeah, he's a cock, bro. Both ends of the spectrum go off. We're both different. Fuck that. My my prop bets would be like for, Chris, I gamble to Chris Godwin. Could I drink Chris Godwin? Plus what? That would just be my my bets my prop bets with Chris Godwin over 30. Take him right now because Godwin guy that's it. Oh Godwin just hammer the over on Godwin. Yeah it's fine was. Yeah. But there's like a there's a balance. There's harmony in a balance. You got to be able to dip your toe into the fucking water. You got to stretch your roots down to hell. To reach to heaven. You got to be fucking. Yeah. And tap into your dark side. You got to be Carl Jung. Yeah. Incorporate the shadow. You can't hide from it. That shit's there. Evil's real. Don't. Don't get it twisted. That's just real. So good is the equal. And opposite is just as real. But we need to. What's happening is that, like, fuck any of the evil bullshit? Like, yeah, that MGM and I, I do, I dabble, I gamble, I'm literally playing the fucking pick the fantasy football. It's fun, I enjoy it, it's great. Yeah. I drink a little bit. Sometimes I toast, I cheers. Champagne? Yes, sir. Pop a bottle. Have a drink, son. Take the edge off. But no, there's a balance and a fucking harmony here. We need to maintain that within ourselves. And then I'll clean your fucking room, dog. Clean your fucking room. And then we'll every. If everybody clean the room, we would clean the fucking world, bro. We would reach heaven. Jesus would come back and fuck and good. That's beautiful. You know? That's what's holding us back. Well, my room is not right now with you. And it feels so good, so hard. It's so hard to do. Why does it feel so good for a reason? That's like. I know it means something because of how good I feel every time. Every time you clean your house, you're like, oh, man, why don't I live like this? You know, I mean, when you come back, I was just talking about the barbershop. It's like when you come back and see your house, come back and see your room. If it's messy. This is like an energy associated. And if it's clean, there's an energy associated, like, that's just real. You can't deny that. You can't just brush that off. Yeah. No, it's like not you're just there's it's a clean room or dirty rooms like. Yes. But like it's also the state of things as you see them. And it's like that's important here. You know, if we all contribute to that with that in a positive way upward aiming, I'll tell what we can fucking do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Tell me. Grateful for the new Joe dog. Fuck that. It. Yeah. For real. I've never heard him make a stand like that or that. Never heard him have the balls to say something. Let me. Jordan Peterson, both don't stand up and say Jesus, King. Which on some level, oh Joe's into the, he's going to church now. Yes. And that's great. Wasn't that before Westhoff shit was gas? But I think it's funny that both, like Jordan Peterson is on this, like trying to understand the question itself of what it means to be a Christian journey. And Joe's going to church, and this is definitely this positive traction for Christianity and American culture right now. For as Frank is popping the fuck off. Yeah, yeah, he's one of the biggest artists in the world right now. World. And but I just think it's funny that neither one of them, like the people that I probably look up to the most more moral and ideal wise, those they're not, like, divided on a whole clamors of Jesus Christ. And that's nuts. Yeah. They're like behind or something, I don't know, or maybe they're being told not to. I don't know, I don't know, you know, I don't think Jordan Peterson would do that, you know, he's never been censored. He pretty? Yeah, he's he's pretty. Like, I don't give a fuck. I'm gonna say what I need to say. Yeah, people have to speak the truth. Stories and journeys. Yeah. I feel like I've seen Jordan Peterson, like, talk about Jesus and, the importance of religion and stuff like that. Absolutely. Yeah. It was, they asked him on the George Jenco show, which came out a couple months ago, because, like, he definitely is, a student in the Scripture, like, he knows the word and knows how to utilize it and how to say, like, that's like when Moses was taking them through the desert and that's like this and understands the meta stories. But he doesn't openly say, like, yes, I am a Christian. And then George Jenko is asking him about it, and he kind of just said, like, most of the time people are asking me if I'm a Christian. They're asking me like, am I on their team? Do I represent the same thing that they represent? And I'm like, I don't even know if we understand what it truly means to be a Christian. Yeah. And the way you're asking me isn't, you're asking me legitimately. Yeah. No, and I don't want to. I don't want to play that game with you. I'm like, yeah, I'm a Christian. It's like, not what I'm talking about. I'm on your team, so. Or like, I believe what you believe. Yeah. That's how I support what you support. That's fair enough. I feel like religious beliefs are so personal and that's so close. Me, I wouldn't blame anybody for not wanting to address that publicly. Yeah. He's like, literally said that he's like. Or that that's pretty much the exact, almost phraseology that he uses to like answer that question. It really it's like talking about like sex and stuff like that. Yeah. To keep this shit personally personal. Yeah. But yeah, I'll stand on it. Yeah, I'll stand on it. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. I think you get to a place where that's just how you process life, you know? I don't even. Yeah. And also the thing is that I'm not even 100% sure what that means, right. Exactly. Well, I'm still learning and finding out and also believing is just such a different thing than just saying something or saying, I believe this thing. It's like belief is, embodied behavior. You know, it's a it's a it's different than just as, you kind just say it, you know, there's something else going on there. We talked about that that, that fucking nauseum. Yeah. You know, there's, my perception of Christianity is like, the more that you have encountered God and kind of the Holy Spirit, you come to know Jesus Christ through your life. Like, the more that you do that, the more one the Bible has, like deeper meaning to it because you're literally wiser and can understand the stories. More than just a base level. But then also it's like your understanding of what's going on heightens. So then like reciprocally, the responsibility that you have to be a devout Christian also broadens. And then the more that you uphold that responsibility, the more it means to be a Christian. And like the the type of spiritual tasking I think that you'll have on you and your life and the things you'll be called to do. But like so then sometimes you're really deep in Christianity down here, and there's like a Christian that's early in their faith right here, and they're not being called to do the same things at the same level that you are. And and I imagine that that's got to be hard to, it makes things that make sense to me sometimes because I'm like with this person, like, if we're all going to get sorted between people who get into heaven and people who don't get in heaven, I think there's going to be people who get into heaven that had an open their eyes as deeply to know Christ and God as deeply as we have come to know him, because that just isn't what happened in their life. But they did accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah, and they did like live a good life. So even though they didn't like you can't get in on acts anyways, you know? So it's like, I don't think we're all called to understand God at the, the maximum level in this life that there's like a certain level of which our life calls us to understand that Jesus is the person that we need to lean on. And for something God trust. And then whoever created whatever created everything was in where, where did this come from. And we're all struggling with that or that's like kicked it around in our in our subconscious. Yeah. Look at the fuck's going on here dude. The scripture that kind of supports that for me, is the if you know, the good that you should do and then you don't do it like that's a sin. I'm not sure exactly what the verbiage is, but that's just like been in my head a lot. It's like, what does it mean the good that, you know, you should do? I think, though, Spider-Man one. Yeah. Tobey Maguire. Yeah, right. Sorry. No, dude, but that's, Yeah. Just trying to dissect, like. Well, if it's the. That's what I'm saying. The more that you understand about Christianity and the more you understand about grace, and the more you want to be like a Christian, that means, like, the good that, you know, you should do what brought it as well. And then you're going to be called to like, do that over and over and over again. I was born into Christianity, and I think if I wasn't, I would still pick it as my favorite religion. So I appreciate that. It's it's all on you. It's, it's your choice to make. I grew up with a lot of Jewish people, and I always thought was funny about Judaism is like, if your mom's not Jewish, that's. Don't worry about it. You're not in on this or whereas do what you want to do. What? Their I don't know, their faith is more based around, like and, cultural identity and like the Jewish race, not race, but the, that's like a contentious thing, whether Judaism is a religion or race. But, for sure, they you're only a Jew. If your mother was Jewish. Okay. Like, you could have a Jewish dad and you could just be spread pregnant already. Those aren't Jews. It's only if a Jewish woman carries you and her belly for nine months. Even as a Jewish woman was impregnated by a non-Jew. Yeah, well, Jews, they don't, as far as I know. They don't believe. How do we can, you know, they don't believe in heaven or hell. But I always just thought that was funny about, their idea on is, like, if your mom's not Jewish, then don't even worry. Don't worry about none of this. You're already cooked, man. Your mom was a dirty gentile. Your fox. Good luck. Dude. Yeah, I don't know enough about. Yeah, I don't know very much about the Jewish faith, but I know I was just thinking about it, like, actually, like, over the last week or so and just thinking about, like, you just stop at Malachi done, you know, saying there's no New Testament and there's I was just like thinking about the Bible itself as a not even as a religious text, but just as a book, as a story. I was like, dude, there's a fucking sequel. Like the sequel was lit, Dawg. It ties it all together. It makes Passover way harder, I promise. Like, I promise, dawg, it makes Passover way cooler, Moses way cooler. Like, why did you start? Like, what's the why don't you just, like, continue on, you know, there's I love it there. Religion's a lot older than Christianity. Facts. Oh, okay. I see what you're saying. Why do the Jewish people not appreciate the New Testament? Yeah, yeah, when I would make that even. Passover. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. I think it's, they're they're tough and they can't accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah. That's the thing. Yeah. Yeah. They accept him as like a prophet or like a a good teacher. Yeah. You know, and so I think because that's like, that's like a hang up that they have the it's like the New Testament is like kind of not blasphemy per se, but like kind of. Yeah. In their eyes. Right. Yeah. Especially in the time when Jesus was crucified, they definitely wouldn't just take the gospels made about like they crucified him. There's no Christianity. Yeah, right. It's just Judaism at that point. Yeah. I think that's like misinformation that the the Jews are responsible for the death of Jesus. Jesus was killed by the Roman Empire. Where's the Vatican again? What countries in in Italy, Rome. Well, oh, the Romans, the ones that killed him. Yeah. I always thought that was funny. That's really interesting history. Yeah, I just think I look at that term today. I like Roman Catholic. Yeah, we like the Romans are the ones that crucified him. But now the Vatican's in Rome. Interesting. Like this is wild. Yeah, but the he was the. He was the king of the Jews. He was the. Yes, he was, he was a Jew. Because the fact he was Jewish, the Pharisees played a political role in getting Jesus crucified. And then the the Pharisees were Jewish. And so that's like, I guess I guess I don't try to point fingers, you know, I'm saying you your fault. It's all you. But they didn't accept him in the in the political organization of the Jewish people, which was the Pharisees, which was their like, you know, the way their religious leaders. Yeah, exactly. They didn't accept Jesus Christ. And ultimately did get with Pontius Pilate. But then the other people that were involved to, to like, help set him up. But I think that there were, there were a lot of Jewish people that did think that Jesus was king. And they said, Hosanna when he came into the on a donkey. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But then by the time he was getting crucified, everybody was saying, crucify him. Yeah. So. But then I guess so. Yeah. Just to say that it would be hard for Jewish people from that point, do you think there were still some Jewish people that just became Christians when they realized there was like separation there? You know, I think so. And then the rest of the people, they just stayed Jewish and they're like, nah, Jesus wasn't there. Are you? That part of this percolated in my mind because I was thinking about, this wedding. I went to my boy Austin, who was on the podcast Austin Jewish. Okay. That's what I tell you. He's awesome. Yeah, I love that guy. Yeah, but, yeah, she was Jewish. And then he he's he was like, relatively, like agnostic, you know, saying or whatever kind of going, okay, going through high school more scientifically driven. But, yeah. Now he rocks the yamaka. Wow. Hell yeah. The doctor was saying, doctor, gel fucking love you, dog. You're watching this. He's. Yeah. Made up. Yeah. What's right at your wedding, Was he wearing your wedding? Wow. Yeah. Me too. Wow. I still have it. You were a yamaka at the wedding. Yeah. What? Yeah. You did me at your wedding? No, at his wedding. Oh, nice. Nice, nice. But that's never been to a Jewish wedding. Men, I went to bar mitzvahs and bought. This. Was okay. Yeah. You wear yarmulke? Yeah. Jewish wedding. It was be funny for them to, like, stop on a bottle. Look at this. Hey. Okay. Hey. Going off dogs. They're. They're making fun. You behind their back. They're like, look at this, goy. You ready? I'm gay. He thinks he's one of us. But that night, you were, I was. Let's go. I hoisted him, we hoisted him. He, It was funny. Or anecdotally, he just fucking stepped on the glass or whatever. I was just a break of the wedding, and, he, like, cut his foot. Yeah, like punctured his, too. I guess they didn't wrap it properly or, like, the whatever. I think it's just a wrap the glass and then you step on it, and whatever cloth they wrapped it with was not quite thick enough or something. And a shoe was kind of the sole of. It was a little thin. Yeah. He was, he was bleeding. He was bleeding. That's a bad omen. But he made it through. Let's go. They were trying to say they were trying to save money that you tell on the cloth, but half a hat. Does a joke. Have had some community? Yeah. Like, I like your stuff. I don't know. Like, use the bagels, I love it. The bread. Jesus. Okay. Yeah. Jewish. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely think that there's probably Jewish people that probably wouldn't hate the idea of Jesus Christ being the Messiah. End of day. Yeah. But it's just his weird lines that we have drawn based on some shit. Yeah. It's all human shit, I don't know, I think their religion is very singular and that it's more based around like they are a tribe of people that have not known peace since for 10,000 years. They were slaves that built the pyramids. They were kicked out of Rome. That obviously in recent years, the Holocaust and fucking not to get into what's going on now, but they still don't know peace. Yeah, yeah. And for them, it's not really like a religion. It's not like a choice or like a thing that, it's not like a community. It's like their tribe. And they don't know. They're the. They're always doing well. They've always been persecuted, but they've always had just a bad ass culture of, like, scholarships and supporting each other and like, putting in more than you get out. The Jews have always been killing it. They're always. That's, that's that's fags, that's fags. They have a really great culture for, producing successful people. So Dove's effects, bro, it's what a time. What? Crazy. Like how we. We touched Kanye West, but then we got around to full appreciation for craziness. Yeah, different types of people who are crazy. That was so funny when Kanye was on. Lex Fridman is talking about, like, I won't say what kind of media the Jewish media. Is like, sorry, sorry, the JM lecture, it was like, that's not better, man. That's you can't say that. I had a thought in the car the other day that if Kanye was sort of spent the last eight years making a podcast, he might be the most viewed podcast in the world right now. If he'd built a stable audience this whole time, and then he could just be like, he can have one episode, you have a stable audience from day one, right? You know, I'm saying, yeah, but if if he had leverage in the space, like, it's like, well, you really can't show that he'll have anybody on and they'll say anything that sounds crazy. Yeah, that would be really cool. That'd be a cool power to have. That's how you get there, because you are. I was just thinking about Bet MGM coming in or whoever the fuck is trying to influence podcasts and if, like, why would you let them influence you? Because they're going to pay you. But like, what if you don't need their money? Yeah, I want their money. So does Joe Rogan need them. This whole he got fear factor money that was on. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That was what I wanted to, talk about earlier. Joe Rogan I like the idea of, like, what he says. He's like, I want to be less famous. He's like, I don't care about being the number one podcast. He's like, I just want to do what I do and not worry what anybody has to say about it. I'm like, bro, you got hundreds of millions of dollars. Like, why do you listen to any why do you still do it? Sponsors like this are like ag1 though. So there's actually that's a lot of companies that he has a personal stake in on it. Yeah. On it. Ag1. Yeah. Like a lot of companies that he is a shareholder in. But makes sense. Like why do you do ads for anybody like just. You don't need the money. You don't, you really don't, you can't live off 100 million. What is it. Was he 60. You can't live off $100 million for 40 years. Yeah. Come on dog, come on. It's free money. It's just free money to do the ads. They're already doing them. The start, you know what I'm saying? It's like we can sell it to an ad. So we just run $60,000 a year, I pay Jamie, you know, I gave you likes to golf, Jamie. Like Jamie needs a bonus. He's put in a lot of work, put a lot of hours. I was wondering how much that guy gets paid. I hope, I hope it's like 250 kids. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's really good. I think it's a quarter mil. I think it's a quarter of all. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Yeah. How would we even know? A podcaster would say we had a boost over Covid punishment to 300 K? Why not? We're fucking living life on the larger scale. But yeah, I wish Kanye West had done a podcast because he and Joe Rogan could be the meta right now. I think I had one. Jamie Vernon, also known as Young Jamie, makes an estimated 150,000 annually from his work on the GI Joe. Why are you skimping? You're skimping on a dog. It's not even that much. He's a superstar. Yeah, dude. His estimated net worth is around 1 million. He's. He ain't no fucking orthopedic surgeon. All right, man, young Jamie, Jamie's beating heart and soul. That podcast, you know he is. They say, look it up. He's already got it up, dog. I was thinking about this. Just. Guest list doesn't feel especially curated for any kind of agenda. It's mostly alien guys. Yeah, that. Well, that's another thing that people say. They're like, well, all this Epstein stuff's coming on. Seems like Joe is diverting a lot of attention just to aliens. Like they sent on that. So hot. There's this lady that was so hot. There's Congress lady. Yeah, and appalling. And, Paulina Luna, representative of the Book of Enoch. So much. Yeah. What are you telling me about that? It was like, right, when all the obscene stuff is going on there, like, let's send him just a ten out of ten Latina to go talk to him about aliens. Say shit. Give them cake. Yeah, give them cake. Like, I really think that's what's going to happen is at some point there's going to be something they're really trying to cover up the like, all right, fuck it. Send them somebody with pictures of the spaceships like that. I think that's what's going on. Yeah. That's crazy. Who? That's, You don't think Joe has full and complete control of his guest list? Is that what we're questioning right now? Does he have full, complete control of who he lets on when he lets them on? And if he can deny anyone at any time, everybody's beholden to somebody. Fuck that. Christ alone. I like to talk. I like to think that he's not. But me too. That's how we got to Jesus in the first place. Let's take a tangent. I'm sorry. No, but you're right, though I don't think. I think he's got enough money in my opinion, right? Yeah, I think so. He could likely resist unless he wanted to position himself further with the idea that you're going to kill your family. He covers it, he covers Elon Musk. You're going to kill your family. That's unless your daughter is going to get a skin disease or some shit, or fucking your wife gets killed in a car crash. I bet that shit happens a lot more than we know than we think it does, right? People's family's being threatened. Threatened? Like, the CIA director, Kash Patel. He forever was like, oh, we're. We need to get that information out, release all the documents, and as soon as he's in power, is like, listen, guys, we're being as transparent as we can. There are no documents. He was never existed. The thing that was on my desk. Yeah. That never existed. Never saw, I don't know, desk about thousands of little girls were raped by nobody else. Okay, then it never happened. It's like what you want to see isn't on the tapes. It's like I can show you. All the tapes were like, what? You're like. I know what you want to see. It's like it's not there. I'm telling you, I look at all. It's not there. There's no there's no stuff I can. We can be like, got him. It's like nothing. I'm. I'm looking through all of them and so don't worry about it. Yeah. Trust me, it's like, do they have just videos of, like, Bill gates? Just having sex with 12 year olds? That's like. That's all I'm saying. Absolutely not. Otherwise we'd already see that. That's what he was promising us on Joe Rogan. Yeah, what I don't I don't think they would release child pornography. No, but thanks, but, it's, I think there's definitely a lot of stuff that they have that they're not showing us because, you know, there's an American narrative for sure. Oh, God. Who knows? No, I'm, breaks my heart. Have you heard of a podcast called Sword and Scale? And I was that. It's an old podcast. I don't even know it's still running, but I remember listening to it back in fucking San Marcus college time, so, like, just graduated. So, like 20, 15, ten years ago. That was my first introduction, like unveiling of the dark reality of the evil that's going on here. It's like talking about shit that's really fucked up. And one of the episodes was talking about, kidnaping and then the mother pursuing or like pursuing the some like a further investigation into this kidnaping of her child with like through the police, the local police department, all to no avail, gets her own private detective like, goes through some shit and then starts uncovering fucking some some of the like some political shit, you know, saying, okay, some fucked up shit, some Pizzagate type shit. That's how that's that's the narrative of True Detective every time. So you're following one breadcrumb. But then it leads to full corruption up on that, upscale, crazy mass scale. Yeah. Exactly. Like you can't even penetrate it. It's an octopus. But, the Pizzagate stuff. I felt Joe Rogan had said recently that he thought that the Pizzagate stuff was like, given to people to have, like, loony people see the patterns in the Pizzagate and then accept that as conspiracy and then blend it into the other, more real conspiracies that were out there to kind of distract us by giving us like one big conspiracy that wasn't really real at all. But that and that's when it gets deep as fuck. It's like there's a conspiracy about the narrative of the conspiracy, because we don't really want you to know about the the child sex crimes that are going on in the country with the elites. So then here's fucking Pizzagate, you dumbasses. Yeah. What do you guys think about that? I think there's a lot of sort of evil. What a terrible things that are going on. I think it's happening. I don't know if this regardless is what I was curious about the other day. The, so they would go to the an island to have sex with like 15 year old, 14 year old girls. Right? It seems like such a strange agenda. Epstein. What the. I mean, what are you doing? There's a lot of country. How about let's go to a Knicks game? Yeah. Why or why go to an island? I know what you're saying. Well, I think the deal is, is that they're like, oh, you got to meet my my friend Jeffrey. Dude, he's so funny, dude, he's so cool. You gotta hang out with Jeff sometime. And then I think you're hanging out with Jeff and Jeff. Like they're having a great time, and Jeff's like, yeah, I can save you, like, $1 billion in your taxes. Anyways, you know what else is really cool? You know, it's like really fun. He's like, they're like bowling or something. You're like, yeah, this is great. You know, it's really fun. Well, well man, what what could be better than this? Like. Oh come on, man I'll save this. My tie then before you know my life. Before you know it man, you're on camera. No, that we are all okay. They control you for life. What are the things that's going on with the Epstein files? Is that they're like a ton of people were there. There's tons of footage of people there, but there's not footage of these people. You know, committing terrible acts. So it's like, this the problem with anybody on the flight logs or anybody on camera is they could have just been at one of the parties that was like, not a dirty party. But then allegedly they had these, like secret dirty parties. It's another thing. Did he know? Right. Where the fuck did that go? What the fuck that happened? Yo, I don't even know going on. What is the change in narrative, bro? That, so much information going so fast, we just move from narrative. Narrative? Yeah, all these things. But the same thing, though connected to a degree for sure. Like, do you think Donald Trump went to the island? Probably. So then do you think that 80%. Yes. You think Donald Trump, that's like, you know, like slept with a minor on this island? We'll say 40%. Yes. Okay. But what's his agenda to do that? That's what I'm saying. It's like we're just kind of assuming that they're all so fucked up that they're like, yeah, yeah, fucking annoying my whole life. Yeah. Well, I try to imagine. I feel like they get tricked into it or like it's. Yeah, it's just like the it's like in middle school when they're like, come on, man, don't smoke. Take a hit. I want you to do it too. Like, what are you. What are you, a bitch? Yeah. So everybody's doing it, man. This is the crazy part. Air pressure at that level. Yeah. Well, have you seen the movie with, Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking's, like, come on already. Don't be up, I see. That everybody, anybody has sex with little girls. Like, have you see the movie with, like, Channing Tatum where he's like, drugging these girls on this island? No, thanks. Oh, don't blink twice. Yeah, I, I seen it. I think he told me twice. Don't blink. Okay. Yeah. What about it? So the plot of this movie I want to show everyone for you guys spoilers. That's fine. Okay. So he gets. He takes these girls out to his island, these, like, basically groupies because he's, like, a millionaire mogul. Gets these girls, they're hot groupies. Whatever. Girls they don't have a lot going on in their life. Brings them out to this island and then more or less like, gives them perfume upon arrival. That perfume? Yeah. That perfume. It gives them, like, they don't remember what happens after they have the perfume on them. So, like, they, they start to like what week goes by and then they all don't have, like, gaps in their memory or it all feels the same and they can't quite put their finger on it. And then it turns out, ultimately that they're spraying them with this perfume and they're taking like Molly every night. And it gets to a point where they're more or less blacked out, and then they just, like, rape. All these girls like these 5 or 6 girls. What, these like 5 or 6 executives, CEOs, powerful men, you know, and then they're just doing it to them over and over again until this girl, like, figures out what's going on. Because there's these snakes on this island. And if you get bit by this snake, then you'll like, be able to remember what happened. Like, triggers your memory. Oh, shit. So then someone gets bit and then they watch her, remember, and then go crazy and they can't figure out what happened to her. And then this girl ends up drinking the venom of it to like, figure out what the fuck's going on. And then she's like, oh my God. And then she goes to all our friends and they all remember. But like, okay, so scenario like that where you're on an island and you think you're chillin, you just took a PJ, get your nicest clothes on, you're chains on, you're chillin drinking mai tais. And then it's like 8 p.m. rolls around, everyone's on Molly. And then all of a sudden they just tie down these six girls and it's like, bro, welcome to the party, bro. And who are you even calling? You know what I'm saying? I would say no. Yeah right. Thank you. Course. But like, I guess I was also just thinking that I would be doing the same thing to those people to get them on cam. I would say, no, thank you. That's why I'm saying I think Donald Trump would use the same thing insofar as like the the substances they've given these people, they could do it to the same person, maybe. Or maybe if you're if you're in that state thinking maybe control you, manipulate you, if they gave you the same shit they gave the girls to like the man, right? Right. And you're blacked out. But you're the, you know, saying they're making you be the offender. Yeah. And it's like architecting and orchestrating this thing. Yeah. It's possible. It's possible. Right. They drug them and then film drug them and get them hard. Oh whatever we got do give them some pop with some fucking baggies popping some fucking mollies popping some fucking roofies. We're fucking making a little cocktail. Yeah. Because we need this blackmail. I bet a lot of it is like nah dude, she's 18. She just looks like she's for it. Like, I bet that's a lot of acid. Why is that guy talking to me while this is. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's fucking bro. Fuck out of here, bro. You creep. I'm evaluating the situation. He's like, Niharika, bro, are you good now, bro? I'm with you. But. So. But you said you wouldn't do it right I would not, right? Right, I would not I don't think you just making a statement, but I also don't think that Donald Trump would do it either. Like at some point, you know, he's like, yeah, I've always been I see I just fucked Stormy Daniels. Him as a boob man. Nuh, yeah. I don't think you have any interest in a couple angels, but that's what I'm saying. So I think this could work potentially coercion going on. Right. To force blackmail out of the situation? Yes. Is this a commercialized blackmail house that's been accidentally put on America's radar? Maybe. Possibly. Also, the maybe spineless fucks are the ones they're getting, you know. True. Yeah. And then do you think, like Bill Clinton, do you think he was in on it? He's a Big Ben hope. Big horndog. Yeah. Right. Okay, so that's what I'm pretty sure is the perception. Definitely with the moral. That's a narrative of him out there for sure. Yeah, that's the truth of it. But I think it might be a little true. Yes. Let me a little bit. It's so crazy what separates them in our politics? Donald Trump without a doubt. Trump. Now Bill Clinton maybe. I love Donald Trump as a politician. I love those memes of like, it's at somebody's funeral. It's like Obama and George W Bush and Trump and Clinton all next to each other. Like bumping elbows, like buddy buddy laughing. They're like, think about this. When you cancel family members at Thanksgiving, it's like, all these guys are buddies. Like, all this shit is made. It's all just a show. It's all made up. It's not left versus right. It's up versus down. I don't know if they're friends, though. Yeah. I don't think Obama, Donald Trump are like boys. I bet George W Bush the fucking vibe to hang out with. He's George. George W is cool. Catch him on the ranch. Stole the baseball around. That'll be my dream Joe Rogan episode is George W Bush and Obama on together talking about what the war Shaq chewing George that they're like yeah George W Bush like yeah dude, we killed so many people for no reason. We did that shit. Fucking did it. We got nothing to show for it. What do you think about 911? Nine, 11? Yeah. But I had to go all the way down there. If you don't want to do a little on the inside. I think it was high. And inside, a lot of people died. A lot of firefighters died. The very sad, terrible, tragic event. Fucking. Yeah. Terrible. And I think they use it to, perpetrate the Iraq war, which nothing but respect to anybody that father died or served in that war. But Iraq and Afghanistan, Afghanistan, it was literally just we're going to go in there and, hold it, try to get the Taliban out. We were there for 20 years. The week we left, the Taliban came back in. Nothing to show for it. Maybe you could say we made a lot of good while we were there. Saved a lot of people. Helped a lot of people over our tenure. Okay. And Iraq was, I'll say that. Yeah, it was just a mistake, but I will. We all a lot of people knew it was a mistake going into it, but they just were able to control the narrative and get the American people behind it. And they were able to use that anger and frustration after 911 to fuel the fire. Undeniably. So unfucking deniable. So people that make a lot of money off of war, too. Yeah, that's a that's a really depressing thing. Did you hear the distress podcast where he was talking about how there was this CIA plan from the 80s where they were trying to have proxy wars in 5 or 6 different countries to generate, this is Nova. No, no, I haven't I remember mentioning to you and never seeing any other. Nuh that's based on that really. Or this or like that accusation really of the. Yeah. During that time, the 80s proxy wars. How are they funding these proxy wars. Crack cocaine. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. So yeah it ultimately said that the last the final places they were going to have these proxy wars was and Russia, where are they at right now. Ukraine and the Ukraine and then in Iran. And it's like we're like boom boom right there. It's kind of crazy man. Yeah. But they spent someone that was talking about it. I don't know if you heard this or talk about that. Yeah. I, I listen to a lot of his podcasts. Part of the problem and I listen to whenever he's on Joe Rogan. I like Dave Smith a lot. I think he's kind of a dumb ass when it comes to, like, economic stuff. He doesn't really know what he's talking about. Other I know what I'm talking about is literally anything but, as far as, his views on Ukraine and Israel, I stand behind him pretty well. But Ukraine, that stuff really pissed me off because we spent $200 billion. We gave it to them. Zelensky says he only got 100 bill. I wonder what happened to the other half? Just lying in people's pockets somewhere. But, $200 billion. Have you guys ever seen, like, the statistics about what you can do with that money? You could end world hunger for ten years. You could house every homeless person for 20 years. We could have gone to Mars with that much money. So much, so many things could have been done with $200 billion. But instead, all we did was make a war last four years instead of one year. I think that was that was the Hillary Clinton era of Democrat politics, politicians taking their last get back before it's pretty much over, like it's going to be a probably a younger Democrat president presidential candidate next year. I would bet money it's going to be JD Vance as a Democrat. No, as the next president. Oh yeah, I can see that. But for just who's going to run a run on the Democrats, a dem, it's probably going to be Gavin Newsom, not Pete Buttigieg, because, a lot of people, I couldn't even name anyone. I just, I had no idea. That's a new era of politicians. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be diff. That's like post Jordan. That's like, who's the new Kobe? You know? So it's probably gonna be Gavin Newsom. I think it's going to be a long time before they try to do a woman again. I think I would bet money that the Republicans are going to be the ones that get the first woman president. Fucking amen, brother, because I think I think there's just something about Democratic women that a large part of the country can't get behind. What part is the what? You know, you know this. You know what we're talking about. I was the other the other day, I feel you. Yeah. That's a that's a good one liner. I think, the right woman. Right. The right woman would be good for the job. But the problem, when I think about what a Republican woman like, are you playing into a caricature of what a presidential candidate needs to be to get, like, marketed? You know, that's one thing Donald Trump didn't really have to do that. He kind of broke the mold just being himself, being funny. Like he died like a dog. Yeah. Beautiful dog. All these crazy. Well, he just says whatever the fuck. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of hope at one point when the Iran Israel shit was going down and Trump had that clip was like walking out to the helicopter and the reporters are asking him questions. He's like, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Was like he never swears was the first time ever swore on camera and just like calling. And both I was like, they are going to pay hell for this. And then nothing happened. See, that's what I'm saying. A lot of it. A politician just saying the right thing at the right time. Yeah, I don't know enough on the follow. There's a whole different thing. What are we actually doing? You know what I'm saying? But image is such a fuckin minefield. Nobody's ever stood up to Israel. Okay, I don't know enough. I'm not well versed enough in politics or history to speak on it, or to know what the fuck's going on. I think you would have. Yeah, I don't I wouldn't say I know enough either. I think you would genuinely have to have, like a PhD in the history of Israel in order to actually understand the history, because that shit goes back thousands of years. It is. It is way too you couldn't cover it in one book, the history of that conflict in it, like a 800 page book, you couldn't cover the whole thing. And this is Egypt and Israel. Israel and, just the Arab world. Yeah. It's, Yeah. How did you become so versed in geography and history? And I would not say. I would not say I am, but just, listen over there, bro. But, that's just been a conflict that goes back forever. The Jews have just been a tribe that have been persecuted and never know peace. And then after World War II to England and America, we're like, all right, we're done with this. The Jews, you get your own country. They're like, where do you want it? Do you want to do you want your country in North Dakota? They're like, now can we have it right in the middle of everybody that hates us the most? It right in the middle of the Middle East. They're like, all right. Yeah, sure. Where do you want it? Where Jesus was born. Please. And then they, carved out this little strip of land. It's like a first world country surrounded by not as nice of countries. And the entire Arab world hates them for their persecution of the Palestinian people, the people that were already living there that they kicked out. That's the reason Iran hates them. That's the reason so many other countries hate them. And all of our allies in the Middle East are just whatever Arab countries aligned with us on Israel. It's Saudi Arabia and the UAE or whatever. And Turkey, I think just the only countries there that don't hate Israel, that's crazy. Didn't know any of this shit. Yeah. Fuck the if you're going to understand the conflict in the Middle East or what even that means, you have to understand. I do not know enough about the history to talk about it confidently. I would never assume to know who's right or wrong, because obviously, a lot of the information we get about that either comes from Israeli media or comes from Hamas, literally an organization that is known for doing unruly things. So those are two information sources for that conflict, and neither of them are very trustworthy. Okay. Let me so. A lot of people are dying. A lot of a lot of women and children are being killed every day. People are starving and people are seeking aid and being executed by a far superior military force. So a lot of human travesty and, destruction and carnage is because not going to end anytime soon. A conflict between Israel and Egypt or Gaza or what? Yeah. What's going on here? Saying it's the people. When they gave Israel their own, they didn't. It wasn't established at all. This was just in what country? Israel. Israel as a nation. But where is Jerusalem? Jerusalem? I think that's, that's all in the Gaza Strip. Like a lot of stuff, a lot of the that's like the King's Landing of the Bible is that area. And now modern day, it's, Israel and the surrounding countries like Iran and Syria and so on. Jordan established Israel there. They pushed out a bunch of the natives. Yes. And then that turned into like cultural strife between countries who were okay, not okay with that. Yes. And the conflict for a long time has been the Palestinians wanting to have their own country. But the Israeli government has been preventing that from happening, because if they were granted sovereignty, if they were their own country, they would be granted a seat at a lot of tables that Israel doesn't want, doesn't want them to have, because then they would probably have to concede a lot of stuff to them. See? That's crazy. I heard Tim Dylan talking about a lot of conflict boils down to Israel today. Seth was talking about it like it all comes down to what's your stance on Israel? I didn't understand what that means until now. Yeah, well, it's I don't know, obviously, this is just the Israeli government and the Hamas government that we're talking about. The people are pretty much entirely innocent. Any given Jew in the world is not responsible for the travel for the yeah. What's going on travesties that are being committed and any given Palestinian is obviously not responsible for Hamas, but, yeah, it's it's really sad. It's probably not going to end for a long time there. Nobody's right, nobody's wrong. It's just a lot of innocent people are suffering. I think a lot of us would be down to cultures. Yeah, that, that would be ideal. But that's never going to happen. That's so why? Why not? Right? Why not just, you know, you can put it. Put it to bed. We could try to bed it. Or if I was going to tell you guys my theory on that, I would rather say that off camera. Okay, but then the minute I turn into the picture, bringing it up, bringing it back. Yeah, we're going to go over the picture, but let's just tie it all back. When was the last time you went to open mic? Open mic hadn't been for a while, because I've been working since I've been working in a restaurant. Hopefully I'll be out of the restaurant business pretty soon. Be back. Do what? Another fire department? Oh yeah, and I'll have the chance to go do a lot more open mics, dude. Nice. Yeah. So it's like, well, on Tuesday night you said. Right. Tuesday nights. Honestly, San Antonio is like one of the worst cities. The thing. So as far as standup goes, because we're right next to like, the new Mecca, the comedy Mecca, Austin. Austin. If you're an open mic or an Austin, you can do 3 or 4 mics every night. And there would be like a big crowd there. And there's a lot of like I've heard, there's a lot of like internal politics and stuff. Like, you have to be friends with the host and you have to like, do people favors and like, there's a lot of weird stuff you have to do to watch Luke Cage kick off. Yeah, exactly. Good. Great. That's it. Back around. Yeah. I love, kill Tony. Yeah, dude. Right. I've always wanted to go and kill Tony. Dude. Yeah. We've been talking about putting a minute together. A minute together. You seen the dude that's got the leather jacket? What's his name? Joey. Better. Timmy. No breaks. Timmy. No better friend. Brakes. He's a bad for that. Timmy? No. Very good. He's got it without brakes. He doesn't even have any jokes, bro. Yeah, that's his little stick. Is that is, He is the joke, not the material. Just laugh at me. Try to stand up. It works, it works. It's a play on this guy from the 70s and 80s called Andrew Dice Clay. I don't know if you guys know. I've heard the name. His all stick was that he would wear a leather jacket and sunglasses like Jack and Jill went up a hill, and then she sucked his fucking cock. It was really. It was like that. Like the joke is not the material. It's that he's this ridiculous person. This character. Yeah. Being a character on off screen and on screen, I would say there's not that much originality in modern mainstream standup comedy. And it's kind of it's really refreshing to see somebody like Timmy No Breaks because it it brings it back to when there's a lot more weirdos that could break through back in the day. Now it's just everybody's got a beard and does is on TRT and talks about the same stuff, like all trans people and cancel culture. It's like, now let's let's have the weirdos stuff, people that have genuinely different approaches to the art form. Oh that's fine, that's a good thing. Someone's got a different form. Someone's got a different form on the how they shoot, you know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It gets buckets. It gets buckets, kid. Come on. Yeah. Him with the fucking lefty Casey rockets. Great Ari Matt is great like Kane Patterson Kane Patterson just went from kill Tony to SNL. He's gonna be a cast member. Oh, shit. Nice. I don't know if we saw him. Yeah, I think I saw him when I went to the mothership. The first time. And then we went and we saw Ari, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what they're going to do with Cam Patterson on SNL. That's great. His whole his whole thing is like, I was just in Wisconsin. That's a shitty fucking place. This bitch suck my dick. And I came on a phase here. I came, I came on a back, and then. Yeah, like, what are they going to do with him on SNL? Like, how is he going to be on, like, Celebrity Jeopardy or like, you know what I mean? They're going to incorporate. Yeah, you're right. I think you'll do well. I he's really talented. I like, Casey rockets the, he's like a kid which runs Casey Rockets like the guy with the crazy curly orange hair. Yeah. And he was so funny, bro. His skits on Instagram are hilarious. Yeah, he's a mess. He's great. I don't want to be like him at all, but he's so funny. Oh, man, that's fucking awesome. Dude, I would is that is that like, a dream? Would you want to be a professional comedian? Yeah, that would be pretty cool to fuck. Yeah, I would, I'd be pretty cool. That'd be lit. I believe in you. I think you've done open mics. You've, like you've done it. Yeah. I enjoy doing it. Is it. Yeah. Is it what's what's the is have you had like a crazy killer set. And then you had like a bomb set and like, what's that emotional tie? You could be like a killer in San Antonio for decades. Just like every time you go up, you just murder everybody's laugh, and you destroy the entire room every single time. You do that for decades and would be nothing. San Antonio was really not a scene that anybody ever grows out of. I do see a lot of guys that I knew in San Antonio open mics go to Austin like I see them pop up and kill Tony like, oh shit, I know that guy. That happens like every couple episodes I see a guy like, oh fuck, I knew that guy. Really? That's crazy. That's the only way to break breakthrough. Now you have to. Yeah. Move to it's still LA New Yorker now. All star Austin Town. You should do it. But that idea still exists. Fuck you. So. Right. It's just like I'm a go to the city. Never make it. Yeah, I'm. I'll make it. You know, Austin is one of those things you can go to now. That's gas. Where are that. Far away. Oh dude I believe in you bro. Yes I appreciate you guys I forgot. Oh yeah you too. Yeah. Okay. We're going to, we're going to round it off round or down here to the Ford. It's been a pleasure bro. It's been a pleasure. Spent a lot of fun. Please come to this again with us. I always end up talking about Israel. I can't help it. I'll be like, maybe on a first day and I'll be like, listen, the problem is big. It's good. It's the water. You definitely put us on, better knowledge front than we were before. Just understanding that Israel pushed Palestinians out of their home and they were inserted. That's a lot of the racial tension there. Didn't even know that. Yeah. The conflicts, the conflicts with nature of what the fuck's going on. And like the same reason or the thing that I was feeling good about when I was holding on to that, like Dave Smith episode of like this knowledge is kind of like important. It's like, can I help validate that, help me organize some of that? And being like, yeah, like we need to kind of know what the fuck's going on around us a little bit. You know, I don't think anybody knows what the fuck's going on with Israel. I think every any given thing you hear about it, that's just somebody's narrative. It's such a complicated issue that goes back so long. There is no like, one truth about it. Just taking a stab at it, you know, starting to stab at it. But it's nice to be in the loop, teller. Absolute pleasure. Just happy birthday. Down for happy birthday. Oh yeah. So happy birthday to me. Happy birthday to you guys. We're coming up 100 episodes deep like I was subscribed. Be a friend. Tell a friend. Fucking love ya. Let's go be better. Let's get it. If you had one wish for our guests, for them, what would it be? My wish for your guests, I guess. Our guests. My wish is that you let go of what needs to be. Let go, you know. Just find the strength to let go of that bullshit. Whatever bullshit you know you're holding on to. Just let it go. The low hanging fruit let go. The low hanging fruit. Just chop that shit of the evil tree that you know. We got two trees in our garden where we're watering both all the time, but there's some low hanging fruit on that negative tree that you can just fucking just chop up and do away with and it's harvest. That good fruit is harvest good for my girl. Yeah, that was fun. Love you guys. See you later