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Make A STATEMENT | Fashion, Suits & The First Day of School | The MJ38 Show #92
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Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen. Episode 92 MJ 38 show. Matthew and Justin live San Antonio. We're not live to you, but you know we're live right now. It's always live. It's live action, baby. Hello and welcome to my crib. Welcome to the crib. It's a vibe. It's just chill. It's cozy. You probably noticed the studio change. You on, on. If you're watching from the YouTube channel. If not, definitely check out the video portion of the Spotify. Check out the Vodcast. Do you always watch? I guess you listen to our podcast more or video watch podcast more? Statistically, I definitely listen to more podcasts, but I also just being in the car. Yeah, yeah. But I also do consume a lot of video content too. Yeah. Oh, and for me too, anytime I'm watching Joe Rogan at home, even if I'm not able to watch it the whole time, I set it up on my stand and I do the YouTube version. Yeah. Or. Well, Spotify has the videos. What I'm saying. So then I was on say I like have it there so I can look at it and like just like place it every once in a while, you know, with my eyes or if I'm watching a dish and I've figured out the dish I'm watching. So now I can look up while I scrub it. I'll like, watch it for a few seconds and then just like, get back to doing the dishes or they are referencing something that they're watching. Yeah, look it up. I'm like. There's times where I need to watch that. I want to watch it. Even in the car, I'll pick up my phone and like, I'm up the screen because I'm like, or at a red light or whatever. Just real quick. I want to be like, hold on safely. Of course. Of course, of course. At a parking spot if I before I leave in my parked car. Yeah, but most of the time I'm not looking at my phone. I don't have the video going, but then I'll be like, hold on, what does that alien spaceship look like on it? And it's see the picture? Yeah, yeah. The video. I think the video helps make it for sure. It's much more of an enjoyable experience to have, both in my opinion. Yeah, but even just a listening is great. You know, I think it's funny that I just feel more engaged with it when I can look at the video. Not even that I'm watching it. It's just like now I have it. It's like I'm watching TV. I'm not listening to the radio, even if I'm not really watching the TV, you know? Yeah, it's a different switch of having the game on. Yeah. Speaking. You. Yeah. Was it? Yeah. Big play, big plays. But yes. New Stu, new vibes. Same us, new year, same us. Keep balling. We keep on pushing baby. Let's go and click like comment and subscribe subscribe, subscribe on the look. It's always on push pass. Keep on pushing. Likes going quick. It's already August. It's once a week football season. Football time is in the air. Fall time is in the air. The wife already decorated the house. She's like, all right, it's August. You know what that means. Y'all know what it's like. It's fall decoration time. It's like, okay, all right, here we go. It is seasonally appropriate. That's right. Pumpkins. Orange turkey stuff Christmas stuff is right behind. It's a nice transition. It's like a warm up. It's like preseason for Christmas decorations. I remember apple cinnamon candles in my house as a kid. And like if I buy that candle or spray that febreeze now I like transport back there a little bit. Yeah. And so I'm into the fall vibes like it's so far to have a cycle like Christmas but it feels great. You get that first cool wind. Well you know we're starting to ease out of summer I don't think it's. Oh wow. I just can't believe that right. Yeah. It's in Texas. It's going to stay hot for a minute. But like a seasonally it's. Here we go. We're getting like a September. It's like fall time officially. What's the word? Do you know the date is I don't know. It's I'm sure it's on my calendar. But if I had to guess I would say the official like first day of fall is probably like September, like 23rd or something. I'm gonna look it up. What do you think? It's fine if I. I'm sure it has it over on the 23rd. Yeah. So tember, 23rd, first day. I'm sure it'll say it on the iPhone calendar. Dude, I think that's like a Vegas line. That's really good. I'm not sure if it even says it on here. I might be there's definitely if you can Google it. I'm sorry for the fall. It's on the iPhone calendar. Okay. I got to pull the trigger. I think you're right. On August early August doesn't feel right. September. Oh, sorry. Never mind. That's. That's what I mean, though. Lisa tember feels too long because it's definitely fall by October. Early September feels too close to the end of August. I'll go with, the 13th. Autumn, also known as fall or harvest time, is one of the four temperate seasons on Earth. Okay. De de de de de de dates. Monday, September 22nd. Yo, 24 is like the let's go to Vegas. Like, see, it's going to be fall in September. So we're about to ease out right here. We're easing over the last what, like five weeks, five ish weeks of summertime left officially school starts next week for some people. Crazy. All right. He's going down by. He's going down by. We're doing our draft next week. Come on. How would it be with it and what it anyway to. Hey. But it's a my thing with it. When you were a kid. Okay. First day of school fit. What are you getting up for that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Hell, yeah. Talk. Let's go. Okay, so with laid out the night before. Nice. You know for sure. What is the why as humans do we do that? You experience the same thing. I laid out an outfit like, I don't know, like a week ago to, like, start Monday with. I'm like, all right. I was, like, doing all the laundry, dishes, caps, casting the recovery spells before the week started. Yeah. And then I was like, I just, like, came out here and, like, laid down my outfit on the coffee table and I was like, I wake up, I put that on, and then I get out that door and I go hard. Yeah, that's the plan. Yeah. And then I just like that's what populated my mind. But as a kid that I do that most of the time I was running, hit the dryer. His start let that stuff a in the pool, everything out of the dryer and then just throw it on. Yeah, I guess I would definitely on the first day of school though, definitely be something. And then I guess if I was trying to be time efficient and trying to get ahead of a schedule, like for time obligations, if I was trying to wake up super early, yeah, I needed to do something quick, lay out some stuff the night before so I can get up and go. But yeah, first day of school? Yes, definitely. I think it's a common experience for sure. You go back to school shopping, you're excited to wear the sheesh. You're like, oh, I want to wear it. But like, not yet. It's like it's this first day of school. Come on now. Yeah. As far as a crispy with it. Yeah that's fine. It's something about an outfit that you deem as the. This is my ceremonial return outfit. This is me, this is me. Is that what you're doing? That. Yeah, that's very cool, I think. So what's your motivation there? A little bit like I'm going to establish my identity right here. I'm going to be represented as this. Or I want to show this or I don't know, it's kind of like the same thing whenever NBA or athletes are wearing their game day fits, they put, they know they're going to be you know, it's like that type of pressure or not even pressure, but the type of attention is on clothing. It's like, what are you gonna wear first day of school? It's like, all right, here we go. Especially if it's like playoffs or like a big game or something, you know? What are they doing in that moment? They're like expressing what? Sometimes I think it's just like, if you're a really open person, that means you're really creative. And in those points in time, like if you're going to have once a week, you're going to be on camera with your fit. So you might start to be like, all right, this time I'm pulling out the zero gravity or like whatever, whatever. Like it might not be like if you're representation of your you feel like, all right, this week I'm gonna hit him with that whites. That's that's the vibe this week I'm chill. Matt I'm freaking joke. Cool, bro. I'm like, I see what it's like all week. And then you come out and like, the all white suit or something like that, you know, versus there. Are you choosing to express your most accurate representation of your identity every time? In those moments? I think sometimes people do that. Definitely. Yeah. Maybe that is part of what it is. It's just like ultimately expressing part of your identity or part of your personality or part of your whatever, external expression of internal workings, whatever's going on in there. And then I think some of it is also influenced probably a lot by creativity. You know, that's like one dimension of personality that we all kind of share regardless. And we all have maybe different avenues of how we express creativity or how we. But ultimately, I think if you if you have a higher expression of creativity stat just like baseline, you're probably gonna be a little bit more inclined to be experimental with some of their clothing expression. Yeah for sure. Yeah. Because as a kid, a more true identity outfit for me to school kid Matthew going to school on if it would be like I want to wear like some Adidas shorts and then like either my soccer jersey or like, most of the time. Yeah. Like it if it was my game jersey. Like I would wear that to school sometimes, got to do stuff in it, or I had old game jerseys that I would wear, and I feel like that was like my most true, what I wanted to wear to school outfit. But then, like, my mom would be like, I just bought you a bunch of jeans and rugby shirts because like, this is what we wear places, you know? And I'm like, yeah, but I do like to play soccer, you know, like I wear shorts. Like, I'm not really sure. I hate wearing pants. I hate wearing jeans. Yeah, yeah. Austin was like that. Yeah. Oh, boy. Austin. So there's something different going on there. You know, sometimes it's not. But then also sometimes there's like you're pitching a brand for you for that year. You're like, you know, this year I bought the skater outfit. Yeah, dude. Fucking seventh grade dude. Yeah. DC and shit, bro. You're like ready to transition into a new version of you that you want to bring to the table? Yeah. So then you got to like, you got to you got to you got to, you got a pitch that you got a what is it called a not a soft open, but like, yeah, I guess like a soft open, you know, like I'm going gonna wear this with representing it slowly. I want to like kind of integrate this personality into this. No. Me no no no. Nobody act weird about it. And then this is what I wear now. And then you get wow, sometimes you commit to that, but it won't last all year. And then, you know, for me, I'm back to my in shorts and tees and stuff like that, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I don't know though, because I consider myself a relatively creative person as far as expression, but also like, I don't like not I'll carry that same domain into clothing per se, because if I was just thinking about if I was going to be Joey Burr or I'm going to be Russell Westbrook or whatever, somebody who's going to be a continuous like, like, like Joe Burrow carries that into his planning of where he's in a way, like he knows they're going to be the cameras on him. And he like, heaves, I guess, as self-proclaimed himself, as somebody who enjoys taking that little extra attention and energy to detail in regards to what you're going to wear, especially when you're going to be on camera. Yeah. And like, oh shit, here we go. Sunday, here's Joey Burr, what's he going to wear? And he's like kind of not all over the place with it. But he's here's a wide array of different styles and different types of clothing he likes to wear. Yeah. Like baggy versus Louis versus formal versus straight versus, you know, saying casual whatever. Yeah he kind of does that. So many questions for him I sure do. Joe Burrow on the plant Joey Burke Joey Burr there's a question for Joey Burr, but I would I'm going to ask you what he thinks, but I think I would just be just back to what I was just going to say, because I don't think I would be that broad or have that wide of an array of expression. I don't think so. But maybe if I had the the financial ability, maybe just like to experiment and say, why the fuck that? Yeah, I don't know. But for the most part, I think I would just be pretty, pretty chill. I think, you know. Yeah. Well, I was like, what you saying about Joe? Just suggesting. You okay? Because I think of a head coach. I've thought about this question before. If I were a head coach of a football team. Okay, what outfit would I wear on game day? Because Nick Saban, head coach. Yes. Okay. Like, on the field. Belichick let's say I call the plays on or I was thinking yeah I was thinking like an Andy Reid type. Like you call the plays. You're the head coach. But you also have people like up and down. But sometimes it's like the offensive coordinators in the box or the defensive coordinators in the box. But yeah, I know you're the head coach. Bill Belichick got it. Your outfit doesn't matter per se. But like it it just I it defines you as a coach on some level. What you wear on the sideline, the games. Okay. Some people like I think it was Coach Landry back in the day wore like a suit on the field. And then we had Bill Belichick with like the cut off sweater sleeves you know. Yeah yeah yeah. Or like also like it makes more sense with NBA to like they pretty much all wear suits right. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think every time I'm imagining a coach in my mind he's wearing a suit, or at least like a button up shirt in a tie. You could or. Yes, in fact, you could wear a polo if you really wanted to, I suppose. Okay. Yeah, yeah. But like, also there's different things happening. Sweater vest. If it's like primetime game and you're at home, then you probably dress it up to the nines. You're getting up for it. You know, it's like pay respect to the moment, I guess, or write something about things that make you act different with the way that you choose to express yourself, their clothes. Yes. That's what I'm trying to get to. Yeah. And so but then also what you would choose to wear as a coach would also kind of like define your energy, like what you're bringing to the table. Yeah. Would you, would you, how would you be playing if your coach is literally dressed like a clown, a literal fucking clown. Yeah. With you go. I can see advice. Come on, boys, we gotta get out there. We make it the way. Do the fucking rainbow Afro, I follow you. Yeah. No, not I'm not. Well, I don't know. You know, that's the thing about leadership is it's nuanced and layered because also it's like you could be a coach that just wears polos, but you're like, real disciplinarian coach. Like, it's more like, I don't focus on the bullshit kind of stuff. I wear the same shirt every day, you know, I've got eight shirts. They're seven days in a week. I got one just in case, because I always have a backup plan. It's like, that could be like who you bring to the table as a coach. And if you make it work, though, then like, people will respect you and know you as the person and like the brand can a brand can like define you. But also the meaning of the definition can change. It's like, oh well, he dresses like business, but he acts like an asshole. Or like he's a really simple guy. He doesn't express himself with crazy, extravagant outfits. He's more just like, like more blue collar rescue in that sense or whatever, you know? But there's also blue collar people that have flashy boots and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? So there's like a lot of uniqueness can just be like if you just bring it to the table and it's dope, like your story will land probably. So ultimately what you wear on the field doesn't matter that much. You can wear a suit and not be taken super seriously, or you can wear the sweater with the arms cut off and be like the most disciplined coach in the world, you know? So it's kind of cool. Yeah. But then that's what I'm saying. Like, what would you do? Like how what would how would you go about that? I think I would be, I would have some suits for sure, and maybe I have, I might have a couple different types of suits. For like business, you know. Okay. I'm here to take care of business today. Yeah. Dude. Suited solely. Bro. I came here to work, bro. And if I'm your slot receiver and I said suited solely pull up for the Cowboys, I'm like, oh, he's murdered out, bro. John, some John Wick shit dog got me gassed up. Yeah, I was at the John Wick. When it's time to be John Wick, I'm gonna be like, hold on. Does anybody have an extra, hooded Nike under armor? Because I'm going. I'm going to mask up for this game. I'm. I'm a coach Wick over there, bro. I would like adapt to that. I'd follow that leadership, you know? Yes, bro. I think I have that for I guess particular situations go and murdered out. But then I think for the most part maybe a couple different kinds of suits. And I guess it also it would depend on once I have that type of money where I'm shopping, and I might have a I guess because I'm pretty sure Joe Burrow has a stylist as well, so they might have some sort of influence. Got a stylist? Yeah, yeah, pick up a stylist, I think. But then again, I don't even know if I would buy that expensive. There's only other expenses I would have before that don't take precedence before a stylist. So if I got, like, a chef and a nutritionist, you know, I don't know if I got that kind of money. Money? Yeah. A stylist is kind of a weird purchase, to be honest. I don't know any kind of any kind of stylist, I doubt it, no stylist. That's why that's a song. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like stylist. It's like I get that sense of it now that we're talking about it. It's kind of like, all right. Yeah. So he's like, I don't pay for that expense. I dress myself no expense. It's like, oh shit, that looks good. And I dress myself. Yeah, like yeah, yeah, yeah, right. But then yeah, I think about like. So let's say Joey Barber like what decides whether he's going to wear like streetwear. And now let's say it's like jean shorts with the like, heather gray oversize shirt and then some converse that are like super exclusive. You never seen those. And then he's going to wear like the, the leather jacket or like the let's just like a full time jacket that's like a denim jacket, but it's got patches on it like it's got some like oval, right, and black patches on it. And it's that's like his over his over jacket. And then he's got Cartier glasses on, you know, or maybe he even just wears like, super nice oakleys on that day. So the fit is like it's a ten out of ten. And the category of streetwear is dope as fuck. But also it's not nearly the same as fully suited murder down Joey carrying a cigar. It's like different things going on there. What, like different energy. So do you think you're at an advantage when you do the harder energy? Like, why not do that all the time? Yeah, right. Like what? Just how do you the. Let's see. What am I trying. The right question is like what dictates your decision making to follow through with an energy on any given day. Because like you get to choose how you're gonna it's like picking up a pen which pen do you choose how to pick up. I guess. Yeah I guess I guess maybe there's the situation or the, the the life circumstance might dictate or that, that, that would be the constraint that might determine your own universe to help you, help you determine. Because I guess what I was like referring to even like the murdered out John Wick outfit pulling up to a game, I'm like, I'm like preserving that for like a, like, you know, like game sevens or type shit. You say, yeah, like that's one like you calling the doctor like it was there's like the specialist like, look the only bring that out every once in a while and then you know, they'll, they'll have like a random stat whenever it's like they're three, you know, when he wears that outfit and he goes, oh, dude, I totally get shit. But for the most part, I guess it's kind of just, I don't know, the stylist brings you a couple of different types of options, or you yourself would generate a couple different types of options based on what you have or where you are. Would you have available to shop with and time constraints. And then you would out of the options you could where you would naturally just like gravitate towards whichever one is like the right one for whatever that mean. You know, whichever one's matching your vibration of whatever your desired outcome might be. If you're like thinking going into it, I want to what's my statement? I'm trying to make here? You know what I'm saying? Even if you're not even so like are like if you're not consciously aware of it, there's maybe a subconscious what am I trying to express here, what I'm trying to say here on this particular game, I love this particular opponent. You know, when I'm feeling this particular way, this album just came out maybe, or like, oh my, my kid just lost his first two third, you know, saying there's some, you know, there's there's some life situations. Shit. Yeah. That's been truly inspired. Yeah I, I tend to go that way any time I'm making art anyways is just like, what's in the cauldron of now? Yeah, I can try to chase a feeling I had last week, but it's much more difficult than just being like, I'm trying to trace bars that I spent last week when I was just like being free in the moment I'm in now so I can just like, I need to, like, shut that shit off and just like, what's happening now, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. But I also think that's not just game day borough. One of the things that you said was that, so you're making a statement with your outfit, but I was thinking about that the other day because I'm like, sometimes, like I was that truth was in my head, like, you're always making a statement with what you wear. I'm like, yeah, well, sometimes the statements like, I don't make statements with everything I do, but this isn't a statement. That's the that's sometimes like, I guess that's how I felt in the meeting, because I was just wearing my gym clothes, and that was like in my gym fits. I have like five premier fits, the ones I like to wear the most. And then there's like gym fits that fall under based on what's available. Yes. Clothing wise of course. Quick little sidebar with that, even though in mind I had that taken to my mind and I was like, whenever you go to to an away gym or like you travel, it's like I'm bringing those tier one gym fits. Okay, this is an away game, bro. I'm fucking representing the home team. Yes, like, who's that swole guy? Oh fuck it, he used to normally go here, bro. The present as a statement. I'm making a statement or or something's going on there in my mental. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Some people it's funny to me because I think when you think about coaches in, like starting quarterbacks in the NFL, they think about this ship. We think about everything on this level. It's like breaking down film, like trying to get to why does the right guard pull, you know, like just why why do we pull it all. Is it worth it ever. You know okay. Let the pros and cons, but but then you I think if we get talking about clothing on this level, Joe Burrow, I think he'd be, like, right there with us. Be like, oh, yeah, guys, think about because here's one that you bring to the table, okay? I don't want to be someone that's constantly thinking about the minutia of everything, all the subconscious layers. It's like, no, I'm like, right here. What? What just happened? What what what just happened in the meeting? That's from all of my energy expenditure. I was on that. So I'm not trying to be like, dive in so deep into which colored hat should I wear if it's a Saturday afternoon game? Yeah, because you could pull up that different thought, but you could pull up to a Saturday game in streetwear and then get your ass kicked in and they're like, well, I came in just fucking thinking he was going to get to go tiddledywinks out there. Oh, Mr. Cash, Johnny Cash dude. Yeah. And then look, he's playing fucking casual mediocre all day. Because consciously as a player, there is something to that when I'm like, real on the nose with everything. Like all day I've been like, nah, I'm on a mission, I'm on a mission and I'm on a mission. I'm on a mission. And then I get to work and I'm like, I've been on a mission. Like, this ain't a fucking lie, dog. Like I've got proof that I've been on a mission all day. So now when I'm in this workflow and I'm like, saying I'm on a mission, I just one more task. I'm on a mission. Execute. Like, that's, as a player that's gonna bring out a better performance than if, my vibe is cash. I'm just fucking cash in, dawg. Casually. Cash, dawg. And maybe you can flip that into effortlessness, like, you know, now, dude, I'm in the car, bro. I'm buttered up and everything set in for me, but there's just. You could always find a narrative to spin everything. That's the thing. Yeah, yeah. So then I think the Joe Burrow would bring to the table. Do you guys ever think about not thinking about that at all to optimize performance? Like, yes, I have, yes. I think I might not think about that all the time. That's it goes on is he's not. Yeah. Dude, I could see that. Or it's like if, they start talking too much about like, oh, he's putting too much thought into his outfits. And then just like for seven weeks straight as far as, like, a white tee shirt and jeans, you know. So yeah, that sounds like a Michael Jordan. Yeah. It's like since he's been in the white t shirt and jeans. Look, they're seven and one. Yes. Like keep doing what you're doing Joey. Yeah. Certain point it's like I have to dress myself. It's something it's like, yeah, for fuck's sake, you know? Yeah. But I think that's why Belichick was like same not a statement. I think that's a lot of what that said. It's like not a statement cut off. My. And I want to fucking feel my arms while I grab the reins of this team okay. I mean elbows loose. Yeah. And I think so yeah, there's a lot of a lot of layers to pull back there, but when if you're going to be the coach of a team, what do you say? Kind of has a statement or it could not. Your statement could be it's not a statement, it could be all these things. But I think one that one nice tool is to just find an outfit that would like work for you. Like generally if I wear a collared shirt and a blazer, then that's like my typical uniform and then I'm going to like assign different shirts and color rotations and stuff like that based on whatever the fuck I feel that day. Yeah. Why do you choose to wear anything at all, ever? Yeah, there's some kind of decision making priority list vibration that goes on their expression intent every time you get dressed. It's so rare that you know you're not doing something there, so it's impossible to do nothing. Yeah, I'm saying yeah yeah, yeah. That's that's I'm it's crazy that we're in here. So but yeah, one tactic is I think for a lot of people it's like a paint brush with just different colors. So, so I kind of have these are the types of shirts I wear. It's just like what color do I want to wear? And I usually wear jeans what kind of color jeans I want to wear. And then I usually wear like my Nike rose. And so like you're just creating some kind of rendition of the current uniform you've assigned yourself for those typical kinds of days. Yeah, yeah. So like you got to assign a nice uniform to yourself. I think if you're Joe Burrow, like, I usually either wear collared shirt better and then sometimes, yeah, it's like, fuck, I'm tied up to a business. Business meeting, you know? What about Mike? What was what was Michael Jordan wearing back in the day? There were a lot of suits on camera late in his career. For sure. I could see suits on her. I'm like, trying to think back and remember, I think it's. It's gone as far as, like, I guess as a fashion expression in general. But definitely the NBA in professional sports from like the 80s, the 90s, it's a little different now. Yeah, it's the 2020s for sure. For sure. I think, I think there's a lot of athlete home games where they just show up in their sweatpants. Probably. I'd have to guess you're just going to the players entrance. You're going to be dressed in the locker room. I'm not doing media. I'm just pulling up to rack. But then on away games like you were, you packed clothes you got on an airplane, you're in somewhere else. Like, I don't think you're going to pull up to that spot rocking your in. There's like tier one gym outfits too, you know what I'm saying? Like, you could be on fleek energy and my favorite gym outfit. And that's also a special type of energy. But most of the time I see people on my Instagram rocking outfits in the NFL. It's when they travel to weight games or primetime. Yeah, and I guess if you're traveling to the away game, you're like where they are on the plane or where I'm the bus. I think you go to the hotel before you go to the stadium. What's the time? I don't think I play the stadium. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Because where on the bus when I get there, I pull up. Yeah. Sorry. So the hero sort of to the Jillian. Yeah. I might just as a coach have my players where I'm like, I need a suit on game to show up in a fucking suit, Coach Carter. Every fucking time. Shell go harder. So it's a ritual for your that that suit comes out in big moments, you know, like, I want a ritual. Big moment. You out of there. Don't be afraid of that guy. Embrace him. Give him a hug. Introduce him to the tactical. You. You guys are now best friends. Suited you bro. Come on now. Yeah. And just, you know, I think there's a subconscious seriousness that you draw out of yourself when you do wear a suit, it's like it's strange. It's. Or there's something there, something fucking which is feeling. And I don't know what it is with the blazer, but there's something fucking there, dude. I remember wearing one I was at, I think it was, I can't remember, I think it may have been around Super Bowl time. Either way, I think we went to Ross's Ross's place too. And as I remember, I was just wearing a shirt with the blazer or like a, like a white V-neck work shirt with the blazer and jeans. And then, I think, yeah, one of his friends said something about like, look nice. It looks like it's just it's literally just the fucking jacket. If I take off this jacket was wearing, let's see, a shirt and jeans. So this is not a nice outfit, but it is. Or like there's something, something there with the blaze. The. Yeah. Something about the car is about to play this a minute. So you know you're if you're pushing a lot of PE through your fit they're like nice car. But they're really trying to say like nice cock but like it's it might be somebody that somebody says, but it is like a nice pig. Puts a lot of PE in the expression of your car. But I'm making a joke but just sometimes. Yeah. It is like your, your aura, you know, you're defining your aura all the time. Sometimes I think the way you would if I had to guess if you were creative enough to draw enough aura into the air around you, part of that creativity would lead you to be all over the spectrum of different kinds of fits for different kind of things, but you probably would choose to be expressing yourself in all those moments, because that's a, condition of high creativity. So yeah. So I be doing that too. I like the fact that I wear it for most shoots where it's just like, like a athletic, basically like a Nike Pro. Sure. It's like, I don't describe the shirt. It's like a stretchy ish material from Fabletics. So it's meant to be like for running or lifting weights. Yeah, like a dry fit kind of. It's kind of. Yeah, it's like a dry fit, but not the latex. Like the dry fit. That's just like like a stretchy shirt basically work on. Yeah. Yeah. There's I don't know the term is for it, but I think you follow me because there's just also pure cotton. So just like drape on you you know what I'm saying. So this is like literally like a workout shirt. But it ends up working out because I'll wear the suit with the blazer over it and then the suit pants that match the suit blazer. And then I feel like I just look like a in the movies when I see, like, the, military people in, like, the fucking places and they're the security guards and like, they're wearing a suit, but then they're also wearing, like, a shirt that lets them fucking go crazy underneath, you know, Jack Reed, your dog. Yeah, exactly. I am reaching dog. Oh hell yeah. So that's that's the fit that I like. I feel like it's like a military person's outfit. If they were, like, doing work, but then also needed to be, like, dressed up for the occasion, it's like I'm still like fucking. I can make plays over here, you know? I'm not confined to monkey suit, Matthew. I think that's what they call it, right? Yeah, yeah. It's like I'm not in that. Like, oh, I'm stiff form as well. It's like I'm on here. Like still on my feet, my feet, my athlete on my feet. Have you seen those ads for the the suit, the new suit on. I've been seeing a couple and I g I forget what the suits even called, but it's just people working out in a suit. More or less. Stretchy material, water resistant. Wrinkle resistant? No. That's crazy. Fuck. It's doing squats and suits. That's crazy. Now. Oh, are you into that? I don't know, maybe if it's cool. Yeah, exactly. It could be cool. Exactly. It's like, what does it fit? Like? How does it feel? How does it present? Is it present like I'm wearing, like, there's those joggers that look like jeans, but they're clearly not jeans. They're fucking spandex. Like, they're just joggers, you know? But those are popular for a while. Like, can I tell if I can't tell, then, like, you know, saying, what's the difference? Yeah, we stupid not to. Yeah, right. Just because I have ever need to squat something. Dude, I read deadlifting. Yeah, you might rip some ass. Does all the squats. It will get you, because I'll find a range of motion that's comfortable. I'm like, okay, I can squat, hit this 90 degrees right here. I can get this deep in these pants and I'm good. So all night I just know, like, oh, okay, I can hit a little half squat. Well in my max. Yeah. I'm redlining. So does you blow the engine. Did you, did you do. Oh, no. Like I had that squat I was in my on where my range of motion I was that I should be able to do that. But the pants to hold up blew the bottom out of that like a smoothie. Yeah, bro. It's tough. No, dude. Yeah, it's happened to my friend. It's happened. It happens. Yeah, it happens just with with pants in general. Especially if, like, you had the pants for a while and just get old, but then also dress pants, particularly your little, you know, restricting little limiting in some motion aspects. You can't really be, you know. Yeah. Hitting full on squats in some dress pants for the most part. I guess it's part of the allure, part of the advertising, part of the marketing, part of the value I'm supposed to be perceiving, which I am. This man is doing squats in a suit or with material that looks like a suit. It looks suit it it suit enough. Yeah. Soon enough, you know. You know what I'm saying? I don't you say it. Yeah, it would. If you're in a dark place when you're wearing it, it's suit it up. Because what? Because you're doing the thing. I know how much it costs. I don't know, I didn't look any more into it than, like, very, very little. But you said the blazer does a thing where it makes you say like, I don't think, yeah, the suit will do this. It'll do the thing people think it could do the thing to suit the hey, suit guy. Yeah, yeah, you always have authority here, but I think there's something powerful in what you were explaining to that. Like suit guys got to be for suit guy things. It's like everyday guy can't be suit guy. And then the suit loses some power. Yeah, that's a suit. Guy. Thing is, it's clothes. Yeah, yeah, this is a clothing, I think. It's not me. It's something to you if you just. If it is just clothing to you, you know. Yeah. Because I guess I definitely we've been in positions where we've worn suits every day or whatever, every work day. So five, six days a week, you know, wearing a suit and then yeah, this is really like so whenever, whenever people put on a suit now like for in front of like my wedding, like I put on a suit for the wedding, but I was like, this is just like a suit, you know, saying it wasn't like some people were like, oh, here we go. Fucking. But not like a nice outfit that I never get to laugh, I think. I never get to do, you know what I'm saying? I was like, I wear a suit all the time, but this is like, different, of course, very meaningful beyond belief. But the clothing aspect of it, it's like I literally put on a suit jacket and over the last couple of years, more so than over the last couple years versus the previous 30 years or whatever, but, whatever before that. But still, it's like if you wear it every day, there's something happens to it. It doesn't become new anymore. It loses some of the novelty. You know, if you go to another thing you're doing, it does, bro. It does. But I, I think I just forget used to be you just you just forget, you know. Yeah. The suit still has it. It's still a suit, baby. It's still suiting up. Yeah, but you just. You just like, desensitize yourself to it. Yes. You, Charlie always suit. Yeah, there's something to it. Some in some professions you do wear a suit every day. That is part of the constraint. So then you're playing a different game with a suit game for sure. Yeah. But there's different kinds of suits sometimes. Like the tuxedos, different kind of suit. You can still kind of grab some of that useless tuxedo. Now, you know, it depends on what exactly differentiates a tuxedo from a suit. From a blazer. I think number one, I'd say on the board would be bow tie, bow tie. So if I wear any suit jacket with the bow tie, I mean, a tux tux is like stereotypically, generally would be like a real most of the time. Black and white. Jet black. Yeah. Jet black. Maybe a shiny black. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I'm not sure I know that. When when you think a tuxedo, black bow tie, white shirt, black. Let me come. Bourbon. Show me one cummerbund. A cummerbund is like the. Oh, wait, no, I'm trippin, I just I guess what I bet, though. Okay, come on, is a thing. It's like, it's like a vest, but instead of going, like, over your shoulders, I think it just, like, goes under around your stomach, maybe. Okay. And then it's like a belt. Yeah. It goes over your shirt. Like a vest would be. So like an inner layer. That's not a vest, but. No. I'm sorry. Show me vest. I'm wearing a vest. Some kind of three. Make it three pieces for me. You know what I'm saying? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Three pieces with a bow tie is on the Eagles. Ducks. If you don't have, you know, the third piece, it's just a fucking suit. Okay? I think I think it's not a nice enough jacket. It's just the fucking blazer. Okay? Come at me saying you want a tuxedo. You want a fucking blazer? Okay, okay. Slow your roll. This is a black tie affair. You're not dressed to the occasion. This done because it gets that intricate as far as, like the levels in which there is like business casual, black tie, formal business formal, there's, like different breakdowns. We were talking about this whenever we were like establishing some of the dress coding policies within the restaurant that we're working at. It's like the it's a, it's a, it's ambivalent little kind of shady, shaky, shifty little thing to identify dress code. But there's like, yeah, there's a whole bunch of different like rungs. I think the top rung is black tie affair, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just thinking about, it was a lot of help. I mean, it's, come on. And, lapel, typically satin, shiny lapel. So, like, you're more typical to have a shiny version of a suit. And the jacket is like the jacket, but then the lapel is like the this little portion of the jacket. So like this little portion that is like the V that connects the buttons at the bottom is like a little bit more pronounced or a little bit more shiny and nice. Better material maybe. Yes. Let's make it this tuxedo jacket. Yes. Okay. The shirt is usually pleated or bib front tuxedo shirt with a wingtip or turned down collar. I'm wearing a fucking bib, dawg. But to give Fed Dog different tuxedo shirt. Babied. Yeah, that's that's a different kind of undershirt, even just to start with, like, you see, like the frills under it. Yeah. Stuff like that. Like prints. Yeah, yeah. Sleeves. Shit. Different. Kind of like the artist and also the royalty. Traditionally one with a bow tie, cummerbund or waistcoat and patent leather cummerbund. Yeah, it was an arrow. Yeah. Let's go and go in. That your cummerbund? It's cumbersome. It says or waistcoat. So. Yeah, I think I like what I remember. It is like. Correct. Like like a frilly, like a waist belt type thing. Yeah, yeah. It would go from, like, underneath your tucked in shirt just a little bit to, like, maybe up to the top of your abs and then you just wear that, like over your shirt, underneath your jacket. So you get like this little layer of like reverse vest basically, and then shirt and then bow tie and then this shiny jacket. But what I'm here in full on tux, more or less is like your I don't think I've ever worn a full on tux. That's a thing. You know what I'm saying? I think I, I think it was like a tux at my uncle's wedding. I think we all had tuxedos in the groom's party. Okay. Nice. And, Yeah, very, like, fitted for it. I may have had one then. Then I think my mom's wedding, but maybe it was just fucking suit, I don't know. Yeah. So I'm saying. Yeah, this is where. And it's also just like, light differences. Like subtle differences to suit turns it to tuxedo. It's like subtle transformation and evolution. You could even be like trying to make a statement that I don't take this shit that seriously. And then you could like, hire like a fucking suit designer to design. You like what would technically definitely be defined as a suit, but you do it in like a very soft blue with like, chill stuff, and then you wear like the loca Jordan ones, like the blue and whites, and then you're like in there wearing a tuxedo that says, I don't take it that seriously, but you also spend a lot of seriousness to tell people that you don't take it seriously, and you're kind of stuck in that vein, whereas there's also the guy who doesn't give a fuck. It's like, man, don't worry about any of that shit. I'm fucking Xenos. Maybe I can do kick ass, take names, and I'm all out of, name taking material while out of bed. Paper baby. Yeah, yeah, I memory if I'm ever in a virgin film. That's just all like those. It's. Well, I get it. Why can we do. This. Yeah, yeah. If that guy was, you know, 62 and ten, okay, we'd fucking love him. If we do that. So. Yeah. That's what. Oh, good. Yeah. People are for national titles. Don't give a fuck. Yeah. All I know is get up. There's excellence, coach, greatness. Make love to my beautiful wife. But it's a repeat every fucking day. That's it, that's it. Enjoy the occasional Sudoku. Oh, the Sunday paper play. The good Lord from a labradoodle who bought a Honey Nut Cheerios. Oh, I switched them out. The regular Cheerios. Don't tell me why. Forced to be simple, man, but I like the one in the cheese. I do all the extra cholesterol. Yeah, sure, sugar, but damn, it's worth it. Oh, fuck. I'm crying over here. Yeah, it's all. It's all fucking. It's all fucking. Expression is so thoroughly nuanced on a scale. It can be that simple. That simple on the bottom. And we'd fucking love it if it was six. It feels the weight of some people. Yeah, yeah, some people don't give a shit. Yeah. And then some people want to go all the way in, like. Like Prince or like, I don't know. It's also just because he was wearing those clothes didn't even mean he necessarily took a lot of time to pick them out. But there's also people whose life is fashion. Life is fashion like I guess aren't all in major name. Right. I guess the major luxury quote unquote labels Gucci, Prada, Balenciaga, whatever. Aren't those like names of people who are like designers? I think so, like, you know, right. It's like those people, let's have a fucking life bro. So fucking life. I think even those people sometimes just wear fucking sweatpants and a college t shirt. Yeah, right. You think they're always 24 seven like fucking have to be on fleek. Even if you're one of the people that does think that way, you still don't do it all the time. It's impossible. It's just like part human nature is the practical have. You're like, you know, I got caught outside in the robe because I put the I wear a robe every once in a while. So that's super nice robe. All right. Yeah, yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. I think, like, I was just thinking about because I was like, when you get out of the cage, you're no clothes shower, you get out of the shower. What do you do? Like, how do you if you're going to maintain that meter all the way to the highest level of expression all the time? If you're in the industry or in that love for the passion of fashion, you've got the Gucci boxers. Yeah, you got the the crazy robe, crazy slippers. Yeah. You even whenever you're at like, I see what you're saying, I do, but I just think it's like, an inevitability. At some point you're going to be I mean, maybe throw out all your other clothes. That's another thing. Like if you only had that about. Yeah, I could see it happening. But I just think at some point, like, it's kind of like so I think of it like dieting for most people. You can diet for like a long time. You can work for a health food company, you work for a supplement company. Everything you do is like health based wellness, and then you're still going to eat like a dessert every once in a while, I guess, like you can also call that like that's my balance. This is like healthy lifestyle for sure. But I think that there's just ultimately sometimes it comes down to it. You find yourself eating the fried chicken sandwich and you're like, this is part of being human. You know, it's hard to always ride the rail of making my selection versus what's available to me. Yeah, unless you're that one fucking guy. The guy's trying to live forever. Yeah, true. And then Duncan Trussell, that's what I'm saying. Do you think that can. It's just discipline at that point. How locked in are you? You know, It's all for not. Yeah. I'm trying to live forever health stuff. Yeah. In his particular case it's a, it's a little that's like literally the extreme. The extreme. He's embodying it to the fullest degree possible. Yeah. Do you think bro. Do you think rolling it all the way back one time before we can just get over it, over all this? But, my question for you was, you know, sorry, when we're talking about I want, I want to know what Jaswal is wearing. Sideline NFL game. Wait a week on the coach. Yeah. And the coach of an NFL team. What, am I coaching it? What do you do you want to be the coach of? If you had to pick a team, that's also another thing. Yeah. Because if you're in a fucking cold place, fuck that. We can call all the fucking time. The nuances are forever to be wearing fucking jackets on, jackets on jackets. If you're in fucking Buffalo. Yeah, it's a whole different kind of a dick. No clothing culture. Yeah. For eight games a year. Seven games a year. And all your people you're playing against are cold too. Okay, so if I'm a. Okay. So if I am in a cold team, I'm probably going with like, depending on how cold it gets, like the fucking Michael Scott or like a fucking maybe like a, the that like that big. Oh, you got me. Yeah. But that big peacoat on top of like, the business attire, you know. So yeah. Dude, potentially. That's hard. Now that would be one of the fits for sure. Yeah, I guess it also depends on the comfortability of other jackets and what else. I think a lot of guys kind of that fit. Yeah. You know we're talking about because I could I can see that was like a classic fit for NFL coaches back in forever day. Yeah. Especially like I can see the old timey film playing in my head of a Packers coaches talking or like shaking hands, a fucking midfield. Yeah. In those fucking big ass codes and shit with scarves and fucking tats. I think about like, mob movies in the cold. It really pops up to me, you know? Yeah, I'm Capone type shit. Yeah, I feel like NFL coaches were on that level for the fucking cigar and, fedora. Yeah, yeah. That's that. I can see that in my mind's eye for NFL coaches too. Yeah that's a five fit. That's definitely I mean one of my cold fits for sure. Yeah. Yeah. But then regular state like domes or like the Empire State of Mind New York. Yeah yeah yeah. Boardwalk Empire type. Yeah yeah totally. It's fucking Peaky Blinders on know I guess. Yeah people. That's how I do. Oh for sure. Yeah right. Yeah yeah yeah. But then I guess for regular temperatures and indoor games, I don't know. I'm thinking I lean toward Dan's, towards Dan Campbell. I think he's always like a short sleeve shirt dog. Like this? Yeah, like Adidas, like joggers. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I get that fit, bro. I think I might lean that way. I think Sean McVay kind of has that same sort of expression. Maybe a little bit more formal. Yeah I like like maybe one notch or two notches. But I think I might be that on that end of the spectrum of just like a yeah some joggers because I'm a I'm gonna do some sprints. Yeah. I'll let me run in a little bit with my players. Yeah. I'm not trying to fall down either. Like I want to take off like, what the fuck. Just have one to walk. I was on a run with a pick six dog. I don't want to fall. I don't want to. I don't bust my ass. Even if I'm 50. Throw them. I'll make a top ten high like a 50 on the sidelines. But I'll be the coach. Just run a little more fucking keep up with my fucking my DB. It's almost like, yeah, yeah, you coach, you be tight. Yeah. Let me hard. Yeah. See Dan Campbell running like Flint. Step with six fucking hard dude. Game winning pick six or some shit yo. So yeah be ready for that moment. It it almost makes you want to wear cleats, but I just don't think you can wear cleats as a coach. Have you stepped on someone's foot or be so bad? Well, you run fucking cleats, so it's a little much, but I'm here for it because I thought about it even as being like, my daughter's soccer coach one day, okay, like, what kind of fit am I going to wear, coach? Because, you know, people look up to coach. You know what I'm saying? Like, I got to be more. I got to be more or more. I got to, my statement must be respect level or higher to what's going on here, you know? Yeah. If I show up like a literal clown, honk honk, honk, and I get to be like, what the fuck? Why don't we look up to this guy who's teaching our kids, who's leading our children? Clown? He's a fucking clown. Why are this clown, Yeah. So, yeah, I think, but then ultimately I'm thinking about, like, if I'm trying to optimize performance, that fit would be probably the most ideal because I'd just be like, ready to do whatever I needed to do. It becomes like, non-thinking, you know, I can assign it to I'm good mobility wise. Yeah, that that's where you would come from, as well as some of the in the ballpark. The thought occurs to me, yeah, I think I would try to find a way to, So fucking tough decision. You know what? If you couldn't have the team logo in there, you know, so for sure. Yeah, I might. Bill Belichick for a while. See if I had love it or hate it. You know the hoodie. Yeah. Like the like if I was the Colts coach like the Colts. But for indoor games just like cut the sleeves off and they'd be wearing black joggers and then just have like the hood up sometimes with my fucking play calling. Like, you know, I got the shit right there and I'm wearing a ski mask. Yeah. Me too. Yes. Whoops. That's hard. So you like that? I'm saying, you know, and then just, like, just dialed in, like, you know, maybe even have the hood up with my fucking headset over the hood just to, like, block out. I literally trying to block everything out. But the game just dialed in on on your little two point stance, watching the play about to snap at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, just fucking soaking it in. That's that's a soft, soft shell cover too. I told them go over top, go over top, go over top. Yeah those go now you run it down field for your quarterback. That feels like probably. Oh it's just so tough. What's the what's the what's the juggle. What's the rub. If you want to present because you're always making a statement. Right. So sometimes if you, if you're like statement is I'm so locked in I'm not paying respect to what's going on around me then. Then you can get like accused of that if you're winning, they don't give a fuck what you wear. But like also in if you're losing your job kind of on the line. Sometimes it's like I need to wear some kind of respectful outfit to like, humble myself to ownership. Maybe, you know. Yeah, that's another thing. That's another thing though, because that's a whole nother aspect of this creative expression. Thing is like the social ramifications, right, of yours, of yours, individual expression based off of the social webs that we are weaved in. You know what I'm saying? That's what the statement this is not a statement is actually pointing to a statement on the social ramifications of the nature of what I wear. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's like yeah, exactly. Yeah. But but it's because if you're winning no one gives a fuck. But if you're losing then it's like what are you wearing Yeah. The fuck are you doing. Focus on defense. Yeah. Giving up 38 a game with fucking people. Pitiful. Yeah. Love evidence even when you wear a fucking ski mask 80 degrees outside. Go to 80 degrees. Okay. Obviously if you're winning, no one gives a shit. No one cares at all. Like nice ski mask, bro. Coach's ass. And he's out there calling stuff. But no one's out of this house. No one thought of this. No one can see his lips. There's no more. No more menu involved. So that's just for fun. Yeah. Trying to bounce my voice off the page so he can hear me better. But yeah, it would turn into, like, I think anything becomes super dope if it's winning and, sometimes. Yeah, it's just Bill Belichick not giving a fuck becomes super dope. It might be even get it might even get into the points where it's like it. We would get in our own heads enough to be like, if we find ourselves to get on to a winning streak, like if you win like 5 or 6 games in a row, it's like, what have I been wearing the last like 5 or 6 years? So how can I not change anything? What have I been expressing? Whatever. What's my intention behind my expression in the last 5 or 6 weeks? How do I keep that a tune? How I stay in the line? I don't want to lose this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's over to you for sure. I'm with you. That's why it's. It's good to establish a uniform and then to play off of that uniform. Okay. Yeah. See there you go. Yeah. That's like I think Tony Dungy when I was a kid he wore black slacks like truly black pants. And then I think he wore like Reebok coach shoes. And then he wore like a blue or white polo or coach coach polo. And then he would wear a jacket. Usually he would have the jacket on over the polo and be coach and then the jacket and then like a colt's like a hat, like a blue hat. And then he was kind of wearing that, like every game, more or less, you know, and so what you wear to the game might be different than what you wear in the game. To, like, you could show up in the suit, pull out the Mike McDaniels. That's that's kind of what I was thinking. It is a sunglasses. And I think he wears like khaki pants and a dolphin sorry. And he coaches what they said us but yeah that's that's chill I like that vibe. You get a little respect I I'm, I'm warm slacks more in fucking pants. Like, you know, they're not joggers. I pay a little respect here, but like, hey, I'm the fucking coach more. I'm going to wear a hoodie tonight. I think there's a nice draw there. You're probably. If you're winning. So. Yeah, it goes for Daniels. Yeah. Right. It's. I guess I was just thinking about this, like a generational thing too. Is there like other older who like, some of the older coaches are like, are they wearing suits or more old fashioned type of thing? Coach Tomlin a lot of times wears like a Steelers. He's an older, legendary coach, right? Yeah. He's super chill. I think I've seen them more like sweatpants a t shirt and a leather jacket. And this coach in that with the hat on. Yeah I guess it's not really I guess Dan Campbell's like a he's not young. He's not like Mike McDaniels. He's he's super young McDaniels. Yeah. He's like in his 30s like all of us. That's crazy. You know for like a year or two older. He's right. Such a cool hang. Mike McDaniels on the podcast. Come on McDaniels bring Joey BR. That's a good guess. Holy shit. That's a good show bro. Look at them talking ball fuck dude. Oh yeah. Some soon manifestation speak into existence. How long are we going for? I'm just curious. You know, I think we've been going for, like, an hour. That was an hour on clothes. Yeah, I been, like, 52 minutes. That's cool. I didn't mean to derail us, take us all the way down. That. But it's just such a thing. Such a thing, dude. You know, we could talk about anything forever. Wrong. Shit, dog, we're talking football. We're talking about expression. Yes. One final, final answer for you is on the sideline. You see some of our joggers and, the most pretty. Yeah. I think for the most part, I would rock that because I'm not really a hat guy either. I wouldn't leave, I don't think wearing a hat. No. So I'd be more like McVay. Sean McVay is kind of what I be leaning towards. Okay. And what that more Dan Campbell to me a little more chill. He's pretty chill. Yeah. He's like the most chill I think him and Mike McDaniel so like the most chill attire top of my head at least. Yeah. And I think I like wearing hoodies soon. Dan Campbell is probably the guy who's definitely saying like, I don't know, ever think about that shit, bro? I wear the same thing I wear every Tuesday or whatever, you know, every Sunday I would do whatever the was on all day and we give a fuck right now, but I do. You all got excessive nose turbo. Say it like, oh, I know snap counts. Hard counts of counts, cadence, rhythm. Yeah for sure. And that's and it's funny cuz one other thing it boils down to is pretty much the last three thoughts I've had on it is we all kind of we have different things that pop up like that. I don't give a fuck mentality to clothes becomes popular and people will like support that. We see coach that's like that and he's winning like that's my kind of guy, you know. And then there's there's other things that pop up where it's like the person who always dresses as nice as they can all the time, like really brings himself to the table. People are like, I like that idea, or that's a fun idea to flirt with. Hold yourself to that stance. Could I be that person one day, you know? Yeah. Why aren't I that person? Whatever. Whatever makes you assign energy to it. You look at that and you're like, that's. So that's like in the meta almost for these things, these different ideas that pop out. And then we all look to influence like, well, what are the what's the matter? What do people do. So people care. Some people don't care. Some people don't care aggressively. Some people care lightly. It's like the whole spectrum. Yeah. How do you feel about it? Yeah. It comes down to the individual for sure, but yeah, I'm fucking with him. Yeah, for sure. Oh, time's all back. Labor. Oh 37 one Steve, I always be thinking about, I think at least once a month, and it's like the thought comes to my mind, I'm like resolutions that started in January. It's like it's a whenever January rolls around. It's such a strong wave, big old tsunami wave of fucking change. Better new year. Yeah, well come on. And then what time we get to August? It's like that energy is completely gone for some people. That shit's gone by January 21st. You know, I'm saying that rush in that wave of like, now, fuck this. I'm making a change. I'm. I'm going this way. I'm doing this thing. You know what I'm saying? It's hard to do. How realistic are the goals that you say for yourself? Yeah. People themselves on average, how realistic is their average goal set for New Year's Eve? Yeah, I guess it depends on the person. I guess ideally you should make it relatively small I guess. Yeah. Trying to find the harmony and balance between small enough to accomplish, but big enough to be worth the reward. As big as you possibly can. Yeah, I can do it. That's it. Ultimately, as big as you possibly can legitimately. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's for people like I. I'm losing 20 pounds this month. It's okay. Let's let's do for five. Let's do for five. Let's do two. Go to the gym three times this week. That's okay. So much for the start there. Yeah. Like nah bro. Fucking 30 pounds this month. Hard 30. I'll get the fuck out. I don't want to play. Keep the fire life. Keep the fucking free. You can do it. You can say like I'm turning on a dime. You can do it. You just got like, cultivate and keep that fire alive. Every day. You can just wake up and be like, oh, my fire went out. Back to fucking Eden, lucky Charms so I can stoke their flame, baby. Yeah, that's that's definitely something that happens with it. Give it love man. It's fucking. Yeah. Trying to read more. Dragon floss more. It's kind of broken. Daisy shit. If there's like you're trying to make a behavioral change, but you have bad behavioral habits. It's like there's like two things going on there. One is like, maybe you have cravings to do the thing that you shouldn't do. And then the other thing is that you have a, you have a behavioral pattern, but the word is like, you have a habit, you have a habit of alleviating the craving. So it's like you get cravings and you have bad habits that you just do the craving. Those two things are like two different monsters that you have to kill this type of behavior. It's like getting out of the habit of doing it is one thing, and then also like how you handle cravings because they exist. Like even I think when you give up anything, you get like, what is it? That thing that washes over you that makes you want to do the thing? It's like a craving or like some kind of draw towards that thing. You're like, yeah, maybe it's like, in part of our matrix programing. It's like around this time we have to like this code is I'm trying to execute this code, but is it by now it usually lets me execute this code, but it's like it's not going through for some reason. You know, there's like a loop that we're trying to subconsciously finish or something, you know? Yeah. And it's like, no, I don't want to finish that loop or I don't want to give energy to that, because if I give energy to that, then I'm so, so, yeah, complete the loop and it's like, stay in that fucking thing. Yeah. But then if you don't fucking complete it, there's like, what the fuck is going on here? What's happening? Yeah, that's a great metaphor for something happening there. Yeah. Yeah. That's and I think the finishing of the, the, the desire to complete the circle or complete the loop comes from. Yeah. It comes from the fucking part of the monsters hit the fight as far as the inner workings of, like what the craving is, where it's coming from, and then the habit you're using to satiate that. Yeah, yeah. Some of the, the weapons against some of those monsters are just like new habits that you're installing. So it's like when you were when you crave the old habit, you you do the new habit instead. So like, instead of eating dessert at night, you eat, like, Greek yogurt. Yeah, exactly. Like soda for alcopop or whatever. Yes. So when that craving easy substitution, you just, like, are able to still get something out of scratch that itch. Yeah, exactly. Because otherwise it's just like you have the itch. And the only thing to scratch it is the thing you're trying not to do. Then it's like a much more likelihood of failure. Whereas if you can replace, it'd be easy to keep going. So that's definitely one thing about fasting or changing or making a habit that you can do, but it's a hard thing. You know, some people like, I'ma learn Spanish this year. It's like, okay, well then like 4 or 5 months go by. How much Spanish have you learned? Seven, seven and eight. You just gotta stop. Fuck. It's a whole thing to do anything for a year. Yeah, bro, it's fucking. The year will fly by before you know it. Yeah, well, I guess the two sides to that coin, though. It's like the time flies by so fast, whether you're doing the stuff or not. But I guess the end is the thing is, is like the in order to do the stuff as far as like learning Spanish or whatever, the thing you're trying to do is like you need to put in the energy and the effort and the attention towards that thing. You need to water it. Yeah. So like the times in the past where the water at or not. So it's like, of course you should water it. It's like, of course January comes around. I'm a learn this, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna lose this way and then all the way to January again. So yeah, shit like the January, you just keep on coming regardless of what you do in between each January to January. Yeah, it's it's just going. Yeah it is. So it's like you need to convince yourself. Fucking debate with yourself. You need to go to battle with yourself. You need to like wrestle in jiu jitsu with yourself to get yourself to believe, truly believe and embody the belief of action of like this is worthwhile. Like this is this is I need to do this thing. It's this one thing to know it, to read about it. But like you need to go and to act like we're fucking here, man. Yeah, it's a whole thing just like that. That's the that's the thing that we're all dealing with, partially or not. Of what? Yeah. Of what it constitutes like how you how are you how do you complete a resolution from from January. Yeah. It's like we're all dealing with that fucking thing. It's good. It's hard that you convince yourself you're like, oh man, a lot of faith. So maybe a little bit of God. Yeah. Praying would help a lot of people. Sometimes it's their stressors, you know, like, you got this, like this way you want to lose for a long time, and then you just get, like, stressed out and serious about it. And then it's like, yeah, can you hold on to that feeling of, I want to change, or do you like, kind of just break into like, well, I guess I'm not going to change, you know. And there's like some people like I quit smoking just like one day to the next, I'm more or less. But I had like Zen. So help out, you know what I'm saying. But it's like sometimes it can be just like change, you know, where it's like I was doing that and now I'm doing this and then you suffer a little bit at first, then you adapt and then you're like, changed. And then you look back and you're like, yeah, just like you're not that crazy, you know? But yeah, I remember thinking about that whenever we fasted or for, Easter or whatever from smoking, there's like one day to the next. All right, we're done. You know, saying I was like, right, 24, 48 hours and then it's all right and crazy right now. Like, yeah, I don't do that anymore, or I don't complete that loop anymore in my programing. Yeah. I was it would be like a pause that like, all right, well fucking I don't even know what's going on there exactly. I know it's like we just need to make a for whatever reason, people are exactly always who they want to be all the time. That shit takes work, you know, like, take it seriously and and do the thing chaotic all of life and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, seriously go hard two because, you know, or like, whenever we came back in after the fast was over, it's like I would we like slowly ramp back up. It's like we're pretty, like almost right back where we started, you know, saying like the, the level of which your loop has been completed, like it'll be a little bit slower RPMs, but it it eventually it'll catch back up to where you were. Yeah. My stepdad expressed the same thing whenever he was talking about because he was like, yeah, I hadn't smoked. I gave up cigarets for, I don't even know, 20 years or something like that. And then sort of like picked up one and then started smoking, like, almost like I never stopped. And I was like, what the fuck, bro? Like, I put these down, bro. I can't even have one, you know? I can't even like dabble. I'm like, oh God, that loop is strong or you know what I'm saying? Whatever. If I even try to on my bobsled down this mountain in the snow, the snowy cap, it's like if I get my bobsled even close, I'm just going to just ride down that slope. Doug. The chutes and ladders. Doug. Yeah. So that's that's like a personality type, you know. There's other things like it's like why do I have the personality type. You know. And then you can do like real downrange. Like when you see that kind of behavior popping up manifesting in other parts of your life, try to like help yourself in a little bit, but that's like a different kind of work that you're still going to have to do over time, you know? So all of it is like, we're in this position where we are this person. You know, I think most of us are trying to get better or be a better this. Like we're like, we're imagining all the time and daydreaming about maybe a better version of ourselves or something. We'd like to see different, you know? Yeah. People are, I think, are daydreaming all the time about potential better realities or better life circumstance, better versions of themselves, but at least better life circumstance. At least. You know, I'm saying. Yeah, right. At least things are better around them. They're more money, or they look different, or they have a different partner or whatever it is. I definitely try to think about that kind of shit. Yeah. As I was doing then, I was going to say what we're talking about for that. Oh, I think I was going to say that no one's because no one's consciously trying to become a worse version of themselves, you know what I'm saying? So we're we're at least trying to maintain, not trying to like, be anymore, like in pain or like more like, even more achy and sore. I feel fucking even more sick, or I'm even more poor. Yeah. Just more in a bad spot. Yes or spot than I was last time I was talking to front of money yesterday. That's awesome. Do it then. Everything is going according to plan. Perfect is good. Yeah, good. Yeah. Self-sabotaging personality types. My, find themselves expressing those behaviors, which is it's a whole. It's because what we're doing here is such a fucking whole thing sometimes will accidentally get caught in a loop of sabotaging what we're doing here. Just saying. Fuck it. Yeah. Just like throwing $100 down at a hand and blackjack in Vegas to say, fuck it, I hope I lose my good luck. I've been playing $5 hands all night, but damn it, son, I'm fucking feeling it right now. I'm a little pissed off. Yeah, yeah, you gotta have a proclivity for that. Just. Life is so crazy, bro. Down to picking out a fucking color socks you wear with your favorite. No one yet. No one knows what the fuck's going on here, man. So just holding on for the ride. It's going fast. Enjoy the seasons as they come. Enjoy the seasons. Summer is almost done. It's, Every time. It's been a couple times now where we've entered into and exited out of the summer school season cycle. It's like, oh man, here we go. I had to fucking wake up early, take her to school, pick her up from school, get out orchestrated and architected it for the summertime. You're like, oh, so nice, so nice. I haven't that obligation every day. Every day. Monday through Friday. I was thinking about it to make sure that's taken care of. But getting back into the swing of things, it's really cool from the back to school fit. Oh, that's such a real thing. Yeah, such a real thing. What was your favorite back to School for the new shoes? The one I get. I can't even really quite remember, to be honest with you. I know this is one that I remember for sure. I want to say it was freshman year high school. Yeah, I'm pretty sure is like freshman year high school. And it was just like, like a red Nike shirt and like, these white shorts and white cargo shorts and, like, some new shoes I had, I even ironed. I just remember that specifically. I know that I also did the same thing, like all the years prior, you know, saying sixth, seventh and eighth grade all the way through high school, probably in college, you know, saying where like a pink polo, I think I want to say was the first outfit or like college freshman year. So that was just the two I remember at the top. I can't really remember anything else that stood out. But those two. I was like, yeah, here we go style on fucking going there, son. This is how I'm gonna I'm starting off hot dog. I'm coming in hot outside. What you love that you could do things together. School day number one outfit. Nothing crazy, but I think I was probably wearing, like, having the new shoes and shorts felt so nice. You know what I'm saying? Every time, I was probably Warm Springs with some Nike socks my junior. Senior year. Just one. Yeah. Yeah. Nothing crazy here, I think. Like, I got, like, the Phoenix, like you're talking about, which is a white V-neck and then some jeans, and I think I wore that on the first day, like my junior year. Maybe just trying to, like, new uniform, smarty pants and shirt attire. Yeah. Shirt and pants, Yeah. Casual. That's a catch fit for sure. Casual. Or maybe, like with the three quarters, if that was in style for a while. Wearing, like, jeans and a three quarters it. So yeah, just some shit like that, but nothing crazy, bro. But now if I were to go back or like when I think about my daughter, I'm like, I feel like you got to style a little bit on the first day. Yeah, right. Yeah. You definitely. And fall every time. There's like the new school season. Try to take it back to school, shop and get on. Whatever. Grandpa, grandma helping out. Get him some new stuff now. So I guess I was just going to ask you, like, I'm sure, but you will be putting her in that direction. Is it a natural thing? Or like if you didn't push that on her to like, I think I was like, try to present yourself as a new person going into this new environment. It's like she doesn't I don't know if she would. No, no matter what, the pressure of the first day of school has its own like thing that she would be dealing with. So the first day of a new job, right. And so then, like figuring out how to go about presenting myself in that situation or that there are ramifications, that it's a whole thing, just like being there for her to be like, no, it's like wear something nice, you know, it's the first day of school and that's just like, that's what you do in these situations. You know, like, I would be teaching her how to deal with that natural pressure she'd be feeling. Some people don't. I guess they have to figure out for themselves, you know, and what time you kind of like. Yeah, some people maybe, like. Yeah. So I'm saying, like, is there like, a natural thing that you would feel like, this is the first day I'm about to go be like out in the social fucking watering hole here, like I'm presenting. I'm presenting myself to the watering hole of society, of my society, at least it's like I need to. I think there was maybe a natural thing that they feel like I need to at least become like if you're going to go to the first day of school is a little bit different, but like first day of work, like you have a uniform to a degree depending on where you work, but so a little bit less of individuality can be expressed. But at least you're definitely trying to come in like clean and like, correct. You know what I'm saying? You know what you're showing backwards. You know what? All dirty you want all wrinkles. You don't want it. I want to be ripped up. Yeah. First I shaved. Maybe a haircut. Yeah. So mean. All of that is definitely translated into, like, the first day of school. But then that's also an additional component of the individuality. Who are you? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because if I was wearing a uniform and like, a boarding school or whatever, like, no one's really they. I don't really care that much about the first day school outfits. It's literally the same thing. I wore that in middle school. There's definitely energy to it, though. New shoes, you know. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Like at least that part. You're like, yeah, motherfucker. These days be yeah for sure, for sure. Sweater vest. And then like, you know, ideally a haircut. But yeah I think some kids might. That thing happens in the show away from it. Maybe they wear like a hoodie and plain clothing and like maybe they're going through not wanting to put themselves out there. Or then also maybe they're just like mishandling that natural pressure of that thing. And so I think that's one thing that you would do for your kids is like, teach them a more appropriate like not there's not necessarily inappropriate appropriate, but like what I would deem to be a good way to handle that moment would be to present yourself nicely and well and be like, ready to take on what is a new chapter, you know, like take a good first step forward. Yeah, yeah. Stepping a good first step forward. And like, a strong step, you know, and I think I think I'm also an agree and said like this like the proper way to go about it. You know. So like proper way to engage with that reality because I think that is the thing as well. Is it that it is the reality that the first day of school energy is real, like it's a real thing. First day of new job, first day of new campus, first day of new whatever it's like. Because you are the first day is the first interaction to or presenting of yourself of like you meeting with society, with the spirit of culture. You know, I'm saying it's like, all right, here we go. Like new culture. I have to get adjusted to. Yeah, if you moved to a new state, move to a new school, whatever, go to a different job. It's a new culture here. And I need to, like, present myself and then try to intermingle those two things and hopefully they makes ideally if like if, if the work culture sucks, it's like it's going to be a little bit weird or, you know, might be a bad fit, or if your culture is not quite up to their standards and like they're going to like learn to elevate your standards or you're going to just like, get washed out of like put the fucking mix of the way things are going there. But there is a fucking a real thing going on there, because I think there is the right way of handling it, is to present your best self, because some people might have the like, what are the two options there? So like social pressure is real, first day of school is real. People are going to judge you. Like how do you handle that? Two options. It's like you fucking take a full on you, present your best self, whatever you have at this current moment right now with what you have available. Like you take your shower, you shave, you get a haircut, you fucking present your nice clothes, you clean them the best of your ability, and then you take that forward and present that and make that. You're like a foundation. I guess that I think that's a more proper way to handle that necessary societal cultural integration of you individually, with us communally. Those things need to mix together. And the best way to do that is to do that, because the alternative is to what? Shy away from that, say, oh, it doesn't matter. Like, fuck that. Like, I don't want to play that game because to some degree there is like justification. I could see where that's like marketable. It's like this, like because it's not important. It's not everything. Just because someone looks nice and like they have a nice appearance, presents it forward, doesn't mean they have like good heart, good intentions, good soul, good social skills, good like a generous, warm, hospitable person. Not by any means, but I think it is the right way to be, you know, sane versus the alternative of like just not choosing, choosing to actively choosing to not present your best self going forward for the thought and the sake of I don't want to play that game. I don't want to. Because like most people are trying too hard or like this genuine or whatever, you know, I'm saying I think cheating your kid, that is going to be important first day of school. It's that right? It's real. Yeah. It's like, I think you're feeling like you're anxious. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's life. Yeah, it's going to happen. You're doing life like right now. That's life. That's all anybody's ever done with anything, ever. But you're doing it too. Yeah. You think you're not because you're a kid. This one's actually way even more so. Yeah. As a kid I definitely didn't like necessarily the way Nicholas fit feeling awkward in my outfit. So I like the shorts and t shirt because I don't feel like I'm in a fucking thing. You know what I'm saying. But keep it simpler. I'm happy that my mom, you know, try and put me in the clothes. No jackets. Do the damn thing. Do the same thing. I get it as a parent. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. For sure. As a parent, you want your kids? Our daughter is, like, super already, like, expressive with her clothing and, like, fashion choice, mixing and matching type stuff. So it's like, I mean, really, she's she's good on that front. On that front of things. It's real. Yeah. It's I don't know, I think it's we we inherit so much from our parents, like, you know, like everything hereditary. But then like, socially almost your upbringing, the way you think about some things, we all have individual like uniqueness to us because I'm sure that there's a lot of families where, like, some of the kids like Malcolm in the middle type shit, you know, like the like how like whose kid are you, like, like super genius or something like that, or like super, super creative artistically or super, super creative with like, clothing or really, really good with numbers. And like, sometimes that might not be like directly correlated to their parents. So it's like, how is that, how does that happen? You know, say like what's going on there? We're all unique. You know, it's all I don't know, bro. And I can tell you, your guess is as good as mine. No one knows is going on there. Yeah. Where our personalities come from, where our natural inclinations and talents and gifts are coming from, it's like, man, that's just got to give. And there's something going on here. Yeah, there's a orchestration going on here. This is beyond our comprehension, but a bare minimum. All your DNA has an opportunity to cross with like, all of the DNA that you have. So it's like make maybe handle things more like your grandpa. But and then that grandpa's mixed with, like, your mom's sister's hereditary manifestation. It's like those two things are created like the color blood orange. Yeah, yeah, I don't see that color very often in this, like, match up, but that or this algorithm. But it's just like rolling dice with the hereditary, like the more genetics, you know, I'm saying. Yeah. With the what is it isn't it, primary and secondary or what are the other terms for those traits. Yeah. Dominant hybrid. Yeah I forgot. Yeah, I color, I forget what it's called, but yeah, there's like a dominant in a not so dominant. It's like most of the like 75% of your bloodline has brown eyes, but there's like a 2% chance you have blue eyes and like, a 19% chance to have a green eyes, right? It's like, oh, I got the fucking 2% rule, bro. Let's go get the crazy baby over here. You got the one. We got the shiny baby. Yes. Yes, please. Yeah, that's a thing, bro. Yeah. And in the just in the. I've thought about that before. I mean, not every baby, every baby is. I'm sure everyone thinks they have a shiny baby. Like, every baby is a shiny baby. Okay. Totally. Yeah. You like that? That's super tight. But then, yeah, there's times where your baby does something where you're just like, yo, that's a crazy manifestation of this genetic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is that. That's cool. You know, like, like demi super mobile. That's one thing that's like, kind of cool. Just about her as a baby is that she like, wants to explore. Like she's trying to get on a ledge and then take everything off the ledge and throw it on the floor. That's her move. That's her favorite game right now. She plays anywhere she can, and I'm trying to like. Or one day I was just, like, thinking about what? That. What does that mean to her as she's like, things to do, you know, like one thing is she's exploring everything that she can explore, and then she's pushing the edge of what she can explore, which is cool. And then she gets herself up to the maximum point of stability and then everything that's on that level. She tries to bring it back down to where it's a baseline normal, that you can get back down and see what was going on up there. You know, what am I missing up there? There's a whole of the reality up there. What's going on? Right. And I'm like, that's kind of tight. I think that's like, not something I'm necessarily trying to get her to stop doing in her natural progression of figuring out the world, you know, like, obviously don't want to spill stuff. But on another level, like, I guess, which is at a daycare, she does it to their toys there too. So she gets up to the toy shelf and she's just like my mom. She's like liberating her friends from boredom toys for you. You get a truck, you get a truck. You just bring this down to the people. Yeah, but, but yeah. So it's a little room for questions right now. So, like, her behavior naturally manifesting, I think I should school. Yeah, maybe. Probably do a lot of different cool shit. Just like different. There's all sorts of cool stuff babies can do. We talking early or. I don't know, like walking fast. Physical stuff for sure. Physical development, but also like, recognition of people, like how well their linguistics are coming together. That's a whole different scale someone could be excelling in, you know. Yeah. Day for sure man. It's going to go by quick. She's already nine and a half months. Yeah. It's not too shabby once in and then I take it out of the draft. Yeah. Thanks. So nice. Yeah. Cool story. I'll be there at the I won't be there. I'm sure Jill will be there for us. Yeah. Chilling dude. Nice. Nice, bro. Yeah. So I found this pod comes out. We'll have teams. Oh, that's so cool. We'll have teams, baby. Look, excited. Anything, anything before we, force our winner down, we wanted to talk about particularly where we're going today. We're just going. Well, we're just going. Welcome back to the fucking chill, man. We're just fucking chilling. Yeah, the vibe in here. Yeah. That right. We're chilling in a hair of. I'm now what's going on in the world right now. You know, reds and blues shit. You know, like with this politics politicking, you know. Okay. Yeah. Oh, I saw something about that. Reminds me of the scrolling through the socials. You know how it goes with with news nowadays. With information nowadays, you're fucking flooded. But one thing I saw, I'm not sure about the legitimacy to it. Hopefully it's true. We'll see. Potentially money coming our way. Will ring the alarms. What money coming your way potentially could be completely locked up. I could be completely exposing you right now. Okay, but I saw something that was saying that the tariffs have been doing good. Doing good. Real good okay. Tariff good okay. We make money off tariff. Trump did tariff. We tariff country. We make money as good okay. We make so much money. That's good. We can give to the people. I was really talking like six bills okay. Like a Stevie check $600. Yeah. Better than no money. Yeah, yeah. I have no idea if this was legitimate. Hopefully by the time this comes out of this, like we get some more verification on that. But I saw something in legislation about potential proposition being being proposed forward of like, hey man, let's let's steamy up the people. Browse in with a little steam real quick. I'm pretty sure they just stamped my bank account when the stimulus check came out, but so did you get a check in the mail? I want to say I think they just gave it to the bank account. I, I want to say it was the bank account that you had. If you had had like a tax return, direct deposited in the last year or two, I think they just use that same direct deposit, like if we could just take a quick steam dig. Did I just do that? I just do that. Whatever. You just want to guess. Whoa, whoa, I heard of boy. Whoa. No brakes though. Yeah, yeah. Run that shit. Come on, Uncle Sam, bro. So hopefully, hopefully we might be getting a little steamy. Making a little steamy night. So I don't want get your hopes up, though, because I could be completing total bullshit. I could be lying to everyone. Right now. Politics is politicking, for sure. But red is blue is red and blue dog. You know. You know, another two two crazy going on that department stimulus would be cool. Life back to school season, you know, do your thing. Do your fucking thing. Do your fucking time, boy. Crusty old Cajun, fortify your mind. Rice, rice and subscribe. I had your eyes. Yeah. That's, that's general advice. Find a find something. You. I mean, I don't know, no advice, but one thing I like to do is, like, have something I'm doing. Like, if I'm reading a book or if I go to an album or came across Jordan Peterson trying to, like, apply that shit, like, whatever your life is brewing right now, try to apply that shit because you want to be. Yeah, just know that God working, God working for us. Frank would be cool to talk about. Yeah. Of course. Frank's back. I healed miraculously two weeks. God be working. That's all I know. Prayers and piece of the boy, Julian. Love your dog. 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