A.I. Country BANGER?? | Floods, A.I. Music & The Epstein List | The MJ38 Show #88

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Welcome in, ladies and gentlemen Episode 88 of the MJ 38 show. Matthew and Justin here for you on this gorgeous Tuesday. The week after 4th of July weekend. Crazy shit going on. No Epstein list. Flooding in Kerrville. Raining on 4th of July was a sad, gloomy time. We were talking about that, my wife and I. It's like, when was the last time we had a rainy, gloomy 4th of July? Remember? I couldn't tell you. I have no fucking idea. But, you know. It's been at least a good five, five plus years at least, where the memory starts to get a little hazy, you know, starts to get a little gray. I'll remember past like five for the Glasgow with any true depth of accuracy. I'm just guessing. It's like having a shitty birthday. Like you probably remember if you were a kid, you know. It was terrible. Yeah. Or like because it's a holiday, so there's expectation, celebration, memories stick a little harder. Yeah. I don't remember a bad 4th of July though I. Yeah. Remember a super rainy one. No. You know, typically it's hot as shit. Yeah. You're dying of heat. Don't rain. So it was it was pretty much raining the entire weekend from like Thursday in some areas here in Texas. Friday for show or 4th of July, Saturday for sure. It was pretty wild. Race was rained more in two hours than Niagara Falls dumps all day. What? Yeah, I saw that. That was just that. Yeah. Is that. Real? Like Niagara Falls dumps 120 million gallons of water in a day, and then it dumped like 300 million gallons of water around central Texas. And like, the first 2 or 3 hours of the flood. Jeez, Louise. Yes. I'm like. How does that even happen? Who's measuring this rain? I don't know how you measure rain. That's a lot of rainfall, I guess. Like. I'm not sure you can backtrack it from. You can see how much the water levels rise or whatever. But something like that. I don't know, some sort of science and how. To track those water levels. That's just ridiculous, bro. See, house is floating fucking. Yeah, it came down, especially in that curve. Kerrville. Kerr County in Kerrville. Crazy. I saw 108. Deaths. And probably a thousand prayers. Damn. 108. It was like 20 something the other day. Like I was saying in This morning. A terrible, terrible, tragic, absolute tragedy. It's a tragedy. Golly, it sucks. That fucking sucks. Do it. Yeah. Could could do imagine. I think because we went to the we had mentioned it went to Vosges Manor for the 4th of July. Shout out Voss we love you brother. Love you boss. But it was raining, so you know, it was just we may do. We were still free, you know, we stood still, shot a cannon a couple times with nothing in it. But, you know, it's Eric Schmidt, the silicon. Yeah the cannon. But in it can also webinar. But we needed some. We had freedom. We had a cannon. Yeah. It was a mini cannon, but it was still a legit cannon. I said it was loud. So loud it was loud. My favorite part about it was that there was there was a warning. Like a literally allowed loud. I forget the the drummer in the band. Like I lead singer slash drummer. He was like. We're going to shoot the cannon. And then the cannon shot didn't actually happen until like two minutes later. Three minutes later. Yeah. But before I would have figured there'd. Be at least like a five, four, three, two one sort of countdown. As a preface, but not. Something. Yeah, yeah. There was a prelude. Yeah, there was a. It was a loose warning and then it, but yeah, he kind of let that shit. Off with. No, no. Hey guys here we go. It's about the loudest fucking none of that. It says boom. I was like, you should do a toast. Yeah. You know the 4th of July. What the fuck are we doing? Otherwise? I just said not. Yeah. It's okay. Did. No shade was no shade. I thought that was my favorite part. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Because I was ready for it. I was recording, yeah. I think there was just, like some shock factor that's enjoyable. It's like people. That was in shock that it was. This one on the river fall out of their tube. Yeah. Good down. It was pretty dang loud. But we did the freedom thing. But, I think there was somebody that was at the party. I want to say that they knew someone who was a counselor at the can't miss. They were the flooding was like a manson crazy. And they had to think quick. And they had a group, I guess they were a camp counselor in this camp, and they had a group of kids and then their cabin that they were staying in, just like started filling up, bro. They started to fill it up and say, oh my God, what do you do? Then she, she, I broke a window. And then there was a, I guess, the current of all the water like spouting from the house was just like swept them. Out of the house. She's like. Shit, man, that's crazy. I guess they knew that. I think she was a I'm not sure how they knew her. Maybe a family member, family friend or something, but I don't know. They know they were like one degree of separation away from somebody in the fucking shit. They were talking about it on 4th of July. Yeah, well. Yeah, because I guess it happened overnight on Thursday night on the 3rd of July. I thought it happened Friday morning. That's crazy. Yeah, I think that Friday morning.

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00 on Friday morning it was. That that happened Saturday morning. My bad on Friday after we were hanging out. Yeah. And I think it was happening that night or all weekend. Yeah. But that particular point in that town, they knew someone who was. Yeah. Fucking movie shit, bro. Movie shit. Make movies about that shit. What do you say to people who say. Okay. Where's God and all that? We we live in a fallen world. That's one of the tougher questions. We live in a fallen world. Yeah. It's it's like, I don't know. Yeah, that's a natural disasters, you know? Where's that, that God. Is omnipotent. It's like. Chaos happens, exists is a thing. Yes. For sure. There's malevolence and there's, like, evil people and people who have ill will, but also there's just life itself. That's a free will. This question natural disasters? That's a different thing. Yeah, it's it's a life itself. It's just like the body that we're in with, the nature that we're in. Yeah. The earthquakes, second tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes. No easy answers to those questions. Oh, man. No easy answers. No, there's nothing you can really do. Like I could do is really prepare for that. I guess it is hurricane season. Is that a thing? But that wasn't part of a hurricane, was it? Or what? Wasn't there some sort of origin story as to how we got these rains and like flooding conditions and like from originally, I think a derivation from hurricane or something or some sort of tropical storm. I heard that there was a tropical Storm Esk, right. Something in Mexico or something. Oh no. I could be totally off. Of the. I didn't hear that. But I saw like a weather pattern of like a tropical storm over Texas while I was happening. Yeah. So maybe he has what could you do? Preparation. But yeah. Where's gotten all. That. That's that's where faith comes in, man. That's where faith. Shines the brightest. I don't know when you know the least. There's just there's no there's no rhyme or reason to it. It just is what it is. Natural disasters or natural disasters, man, this is just sucks. You try to prepare for you. You try to make buildings that are earthquake resistant or, you know, create your shelters in your. I think we we kind of do that already, like people who live on the beach or like in Galveston, like they have their houses, like, lifted up and ready for rising waters and, and some of the natural, you know, comes with the territory type of shit that goes on. Yeah. It's like, oh, how does how do you get like, God's like, I can't control the weather. So you probably. Can of course. But then did he kill those people on purpose? Like probably not. That's the thing. That's the thing. Yeah. This is a the. The chosen one says, like, his understanding is not our understanding. And, not at all. So that's like, what does that mean? Maybe, like, on base level, that heaven's way better than Earth. So anybody who died, honestly, there are better off for it. So, like, God had a plan for all those people's lives. And Jeremiah 2911, was that the plan for their life? I don't think so. Seems like a weird plan. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's rough. It's rough. I think people definitely have to deal with or we have to deal with that to have degree. This testing of your faith. Right, right, right. Okay. We're going to lose something. We're going to get pain somehow. I think, jokes aside. That's fucked. Up. The God that blesses you and anoints you. So who's to say that he is only to bless you with, like, easy things and not to, like, bless you with adversity? That's a difficult thing to wrap your mind around. Bless with that kind of adversity. Yeah, yeah. I can't even imagine. My wife and I were thinking because, yeah, we had just sent our little one off to camp a couple of weeks ago or, you know, whatever for the Ccbc camp. Yeah. So it's like five man, just to have this just happen. It just happens like, fuck. Breaking my heart, man. I need to get my dad on the podcast. Breaking my heart. There we go. So it there's, like, the theological standing. Oh, yeah. Because I'm sure that there's a lot of the things like this open up an avenue for people to be highly critical of the Christian faith, because it's like, what. Is God in. General? Yeah, exactly. And then, like, as someone who I feel like I like defend those things. I like predict. The. Critique coming and then usually I'm like, got some things I could say this one's like more tough, you know. Yeah. It's like like my mom died from cancer. It's like how I respond to that is like there is chaos in the world. That is like what we're doing here. Like, God doesn't want people to suffer or people to die per se. It's not like chose that. But in the world that we exist in this fallen world, chaos is prevalent. It exists. It does. Things happen that are unplanned. It's a it's a plan that has unplanned moments in the plan. And then those go terribly sometimes, you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thinking about that. And then a couple days, even before that, we had, a running into like our own, not our direct personal lives, but just someone on the fringes of our social circles has, has was, was killed. So it's just like death was in the air. And then the flooding happened very shortly thereafter, finding out that information about that person in the social circles getting killed. We didn't know him directly, but you know what I'm saying? It's crazy. It's just. Yeah. How do you respond to these things? Choosing to have faith, bro. Choosing to think that you can have a this can turn into something. A testimony for you or. Fucking death, bro. Yeah. What do you mean? I'm like, how do I explain what God is doing? Natural disasters, tragedies, stops with all the factual minutia. It's like, that's a powerful question, one that has turned the hearts and minds of theologies for centuries. I thought, this is a big question. One for your worldview. Natural disasters are a consequence of living in a dynamic, complex world. God could stop them, but doing so constantly would dismantle the very laws that make the world stable and livable. So gravity, weather systems, plate tectonics, all those laws allow function without interruption. It's like, where is God then? Present in the response? The rescuers, their generosity, the resilience, their communities that come together? Yeah, God is in the hands of those who help. It's like the soul making the Odyssey. I don't know that word theodicy, but there's a theodicy. Slice of theodicy. And the view. Holds that suffering, even the kind caused by nature, can refine and shape the soul doesn't mean that God causes disaster for this purpose. But God can bring meaning out of tragedy and invites compassion, courage, and deeper dependance on God. Many saints survivors have described finding God more clearly through disaster, not in spite of it, and then lament and mystery. Job's perspective. But that book of job gives the wrong answer. It doesn't explain why suffering happens, but insists that God is not absent. Job asks, Where is God in my suffering? And gets a reply that doesn't explain everything, but reveals God's presence, power, and care. It's like, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? The ark? Brother of God. Guy. Yeah, exactly. The viewed as a result of vain but affirms the mystery. Sometimes God's role isn't clear, but relationship remains open and limited itself becomes a holy act. That's what I'm saying. It's like God's understanding is our understanding. Yeah, I forget I forget where that is in the Bible. Exactly. But you know, your your ways are not our ways. Your understanding is not our understanding. It's just that's that is a foundational principle I live by. So I don't know what the fuck's going on here. That's outside of our realm of capacity, of understanding. But yeah. And the response in the coming together in the like, I think it's the sermon on the Mount. God mourns with those who mourn, who are blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like God knows we're going to, you know, go through some shit here. We're in a fallen world. It is what it is, man. I'm sorry. It is the nature of the game, nature itself. What a weird game, Where? I'm just kidding. As far as we're concerned. Yeah. Exactly right. Like, where are you? Were invented the word weird. Yeah. When it gave you. Conceptual understanding, capacity and capabilities. Where were you when I created that? Well, I define normal. What were you? What you were nothing. Nothing, bro. Yeah, we're we're the product of thousands of years of people. And they only live for how long? Life expectancy is the highest ever been 70, 80, whatever it is. So shrink that by like a lot. Like 6000 years ago. People weren't living that long. So how many people had to iterate for us to even be here is. What are you talking about? Know? What are you talking about? Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. It's insane that we made it this far. We just be fucking. We live in a crazy talking world, dude. Like that's how we got this far. Yeah, but just give them a fucking bus. No, it's the. That is what happened. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. Sex has to feel great. Otherwise it. Died out a long. Time ago. Yeah, but. Giving birth is terrible. Apparently, women forget that. I can legitimately forget what that feels like. I can tell you. I can't relate. No idea. And I thank God for that. Praise Jesus. Hallelujah. I ain't got to deal with childbirth in this lifetime. Maybe I don't know about past lives and whatever the fuck I'm a man right now, so that's cool. I ain't got. To deal with the childbirth. Epidurals like that. Yeah, yeah, that's, you know. We've came a long way to try to combat that pain of keeping this game going. Yeah, this is painful. Still, though. I mean, the emotional parts of it, the recovery parts of it, you don't get that. You don't get that caesarean. You just gotta. Natural eject. Oh that's right. Oh yeah. It's tough. That's a rough one. You ever see the old the old. This is Squid Games. Yes. In the baby part of Squid Games. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. We we finished it. We finished. You finished? Yeah. No no. No, but I seen the part where she has the baby in the middle of the maze. Yeah. Just like, yo. She. She ain't got no epidural. This is coming now. This is happening. I pray that's a quick that's a quick drop. I want to have a Donda situation going on. It also just took forever for the job. Oh 2020 three hour labor cycles rough. At that. Thank you. So yeah. Anyways yeah we watch people working. We're the result of thousands of years of people working and. Then. Raising those things that came out afterwards, little children keeping them alive. For thousands of fucking years. And now we're here. I forget where we're where that conversation stemmed from. What are we talking about for that to bring us here? Oh, no. I saw a video where the guy with the. Well, how we got here was. Understanding. I think it's like you don't know what the fuck's going on. Yeah, life expectancy was a lot higher. It's the highest it's ever been. Yeah, I can't remember. Either way, we keep on. Moving. So this video where this guy hits the registered highest IQ ever. It's. Like 216 or something like that. This Asian guy. Okay. Go figure. And I'm just. Kidding. I saw a. Video. It was talking about. God. Yeah, I think I was a video of a guy talking about guy with the highest IQ. That was like the video, you know? Whatever. Yeah. He was. Like, setting, but he was. It was a white guy, though. What? Yeah, I think he like two 20s. What I said. Was, I don't know, you're talking about God, though. Yeah. Like, did genius say. He was saying that, that God is definitely real and that he was coming back. Really? And like, the caption on the video was like, God's coming back in this generation. He's like, I've been blessed and anointed with this IQ, mostly so that I can be a testament to tell you guys that Jesus is coming back. I was like, soon, yeah, come on. I was like, yo, nice rally the troops. That'll be kind of messed up for all the other generations if we just got to like, be there. When Jesus came back. They got to be there when he came here. Yeah. That's true. That's pretty tight. All the Vikings in the middle didn't get any of that. No, no, it's just. But I'm with you. Just a little group. Yeah. It was a chose a group of people I was thinking about that. So watching the chosen but I was this is a conversation I've had before. But I got to quick little touch because yeah, I guess the, the genius that I was watching in the video, he wasn't talking about Jesus coming back. Per se, but he was talking about the probability. Chance that God is real is like 100 or it's pretty fucking close. It's like 99.999. Yeah. Or like the opposite maybe, or like the inverse of that, like the fact that we don't have a god or like it would be so low. The fact that all this works is like fucking crazy. Yeah. I forget exactly the use of words that he used to portray this information, but he was more or less like, yeah, it makes complete sense. And yeah, the odds of Earth being. But the coming back part that's tight. Yeah. I would love that. I'm fucking with that. So I've had that. Conversation before with the wife like I what if Jesus came back. Like when work like for us. That would be tight. So I'm being crazy bro. We locked in top ten, bro. Yeah, we we read revelations or whatever. That was a couple months ago. As being like, yo. This is going to be wild. When he goes back. If it's going down, if it's going down the way that this is being portrayed, like he might come back, it might be different. But either way, the way that the vision that John got that was wild. That'll be really kind of tight to watch. That would be like the greatest movie you've ever seen. Yeah, I think we could take I think we get took or I think we get took before all the crazy shit happens. So yeah. True hope. Praise God. I think we go to that. Yeah. They go to the palace hypothetically. I guess that's like what the good the Christian doctrine is stating, right? We go to the we got to live with God in eternity. Yeah, yeah, I think so. There's like, well, what do we go to to see Saint Peter get our judgment let in or not? Or it's different if it's like, oh my God, we didn't even. Talk about oh okay. Yeah. You're talking about yeah. Dying and going to the afterlife versus the rapture coming. Right. The afterlife coming here. Yeah. It might be a little different. I don't know. Because also like the wars can be for like seven years, right? I'm not sure. But I think after the rapture, there's a seven year period where the people who were like, kind of on the fence can, like, suffer through Satan's earth for seven years. And then Jesus will, like, ended after that. And there's like a second rapture where those people can get like another opportunity to be taken to heaven. Really? Yeah, that's what I say. I'm pretty sure. I can tell you. I forgot it's there's so much might. Be the plot behind left behind. It's a game or movie. It's a book movie. Okay. It was a phenomenally high selling book when I was a kid. How does the rapture work, scripturally speaking? Yeah. What is revelation exactly talking about? But yeah, that would be super trippy if you came back in our lifetime, because it was just. This has been so many people. We don't know what's going on here. We don't know what's going on here. God's ways are not our ways. He's there in it's he's there, and he's there with you who. Mourn you, who mourn. Yeah. So that's what. Yeah, that's what I heard. That too. Like it says, the dead in Christ will rise first. So there's like some debate that, like, everyone who's dead is kind of just, like, asleep right now. And then when the rapture comes, they will go first or they're already in heaven. Then he's just going to like, reallocate them to a new budget, if that makes any sense. Got it. And then then we who are live where left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. And then believers are taken before a seven year tribulation. Earth thunders God's judgment while the church is spared. This is the left behind view made popular in the modern evangel magical culture. The rapture happens halfway through the seven year tribulation. Believers endure some suffering but are spared the worst judgments. Then post tribulation rapture believers go through the entire tribulation and are caught up at Christ. Second Coming Jesus returns once, visibly and powerfully in the church, meets him in the air as he comes to reign. So there's, I guess, different viewpoints on how it's going to go down. He comes back twice. Yeah. This must be seven years of tribulation. Once the. Once he comes back the first time. Or like when the like, what's the name for the person is going to be like the devil incarnate Antichrist. Yeah. Like once the Antichrist comes present, it's like it could just be, like, straight up, like, all right, then it's like rapture. Or it could be like we. There is seven years of tribulation after the Antichrist becomes present. And then God might come, like in the middle of it all. Up for debate, I guess. A lot of minutia. Yeah. So that's a that's some news right there. Get a little bit skittish. But yeah, I mean, every time we came back in our lifetime. I was so fired. And I mean, I'm here. I'm cool. How do you think. He's going to do. It? So he's. Coming to Texas first to tell you that. He's coming to Texas. That's what. God's country. Yeah. Come on now we're talking about. We're smack dab in it. Maybe I saw, like, a big cloud. Looked like Jesus. Yeah, that's what I was thinking coming from the clouds. It's like a huge Jesus face in the clouds. My sons and daughters. Oh, shit. I was like Mufasa, the Lion King. Yeah, yeah. Like that. It's like it's, Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Okay, I got it. I'm pretty far. But then it's like, what about two people in China. Right? Yeah. Those Christians in China. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. All the countries. Yeah. I'm sure it's it's pretty. It's pretty global. Maybe it's like a hood thing, right? Each individual person's hood just becomes like Jesus face. You're like. Whoa. We're all standing there, like, in our own space. Just like, walked into a second Delic experience. Oh, yeah. Might be a slow fading out of this like our hood I've always seen, you know, saying that it is all this is like goes away and then we go into wherever else the next. To wake up out of the pods. Yeah. Well it won't be a seamless transition. We don't even wake up or like, we don't even, I guess, I don't know, what is it? Are we going to be in our bodies? Are we going to be physical form or are we formless? I don't know how you would go through. Well oh wait, hold on, because I'm talking about when Jesus just comes back. But if we get raptured, I don't know. It might just be like light beams. But then, like, you have Jesus going to, like, just present himself to the world like bam. Bam, bam. Bam bam bam. I'm back. You know, like, I don't know how that's going to happen. Yeah. Okay. Seriously. Right. So they're on a 300ft horse. Yeah. He might see them up in the sky. It's like just coming in. What is it getting them coming in or something? That's a viral video. It's how we're all. Going to get it. Yeah. Hey. What's up Jesus here Jesus is in the back room, bro. He didn't come through the Texas first. Then we're going to catch video that's on going global. It's gonna go viral instantly. And everyone's going to know the. Weird logistic way that. He's back. He's like Michael Jordan. Yeah like 9495 whenever he came. But seriously, now we're in 45. Yeah. So I don't I don't know how that's going to happen, but it will happen and that'll be super cool. And that guys. Right? I mean, I don't think wonder what. Gave him what gave him such gear or like confidence and. Said, God. This I gave it to him. Yeah. And then he's like, I was blessed with the highest IQ to have a platform to tell you guys that the smartest person in the world thinks that Jesus is coming back. I know that this generation. Yeah. Bowled by bro. It's getting weird. What defines this. Generation? Yeah, right. Or how so? Because it's as. I saw an Alex Jones clip from Joe Rogan that had been. And that was kind of a weird moment because, like, I was like thinking about Jesus coming back and you this weird like intimation, like, what if Jesus was just going to like, sit? I mean, think about this a lot actually, because like, I saw that video, I guess, like, what if Jesus was just going to, like, sit in my car with me? Like, I just, like, look over and that's Jesus. First thing is like, oh, it's not going to look like Jonathan Roomy, which is like what I nachos in. Yeah, I actually. Just think it's in me that Jesus. Of course. Of course. And then. I made, like a more savage looking Jesus like, I don't know, like something less attractive because Jonathan do me is like. Okay, okay, okay. As an actor, you know. So he's like this like kind of gorgeous, man. Pause. I'm just saying, like, he's a good looking dude. But Jesus might look more. For the actors and the movies and. Shit. Yeah, totally. Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Probably be beautiful, too. I'm not saying it's not much like. You. Kind of like, painted this picture of, like, remove my expectation from, like, create a new Jesus in your mind. Yeah. As I say. Oh, you take away the association you have. Yeah. At least diminish it a little bit. Yeah. Because I'd be like. Jonathan, can I get an autograph? Who's this? I'd be crazy if he looked exactly like Jonathan Ross. It's like I bless that gentleman with my looks. Oh, he's just coming in. And he's just like I am the portrayal of what you think I look like. So. Yeah. It's on you, Doug. Yeah. Let me crazy right? I don't remember. He was a human, though. He, like, kind of had a a body. He had a meat suit they had to take care of. I don't know why, but I remember reading something where it was like Jesus wasn't described as like a beautiful person. They were like, this guy is a ten. Okay, I don't know why. Like, so anyways, my brain's like, well, I've got my backpack in the seat next to me. And like, if Jesus was going to appear here, it'd be kind of weird for him to be like him and like, move this stuff out of my translucent body so I can become a fully physical form. And I was just like, move my backpack so that he could, like, sit in my car seat. Why not? Yeah, yeah. And then like, I pick up my phone and I scroll and there's a video there and I just get kind of like lost in the video and I'm watching it and it's Alex Jones talking about how there's it's apparently from a removed episode of the Joe Rogan Podcast. Really? Yeah. It's been scrubbed from the internet. It's really hard to find. So lot all the comments are saying and he was talking about how there's like these dimensions and then there's these like evil beings in these lower dimensions that are trying to like, climb their way through the third dimension up into the fourth, fifth and sixth dimension. And then they're doing it through using people who want power. One thing you're talking about was that they're going to use AI. This is like in 2017. You say this, they're going to like find a way to collect everyone's data all the time with AI. And then what they're going to do is that they're going to know. What's. Going on in the present, because they have everyone's data, and then they're going to be able to make really accurate predictions about the future because they have everyone's data. And then. What's happening right now, what what patterns are being run right. Now. And then the AI will be like the next pattern will be this or like it'll be able to play it out over iterations and figure it out. Then once you can like take the present and predict the future, then you can take the present and manipulate the future because you know what adjustments to make to make different things happen in the future. And then like once they have that figured out, it's like we won't have free anymore. So because they'll be able to like insert things into the culture that will prompt the. Change behavior and value. Exactly. Yeah. And then at that point, that's what I'm like, you know, there's like no more free will. Then I think Jesus would come back at that time because it's like they're not even they're not even playing life game anymore. They're just like sheep now. Like like not like he's a sheep but like the whole. Point of our. Yeah. The whole point of our world here is free will. That's like the basis of this thing that's happening. Right. And as soon as I don't know if I got that idea from someone else or my dad or I heard it somewhere, but that's one of the things that I've felt like forever is like, once free will is legitimately out the window, Jesus will just come back and end the game. And so or like if it gets to a point where, Like, evil is just in control 100%, even though we don't know that. But like evil Foley runs all of the governments or the people in power have been like, there's no more heroes left to fight. Jesus will just come back and be like, game over. It's done. I'm I'm taking. But I'm taking it back. I'm taking a hit and a soft reset right here. Yeah. Oh, hard reset hard. It's over. Doc, turn it off, dude. Yeah, man, I think that's crazy, because that reminds me of, like, I think I remember hearing Alex Jones. I can't remember ever. If I heard the episode directly, was it an episode with him and other people or just him and Alex. Just having Joe. I, him and Joe, Alex, Joe. Okay. Because I know that there was one with Alex and I want to say Eddie Bravo. Maybe that I listen to like it's 2017 probably or something similar, but it wouldn't surprise me if there was one that he pulled for some for whatever reason. But just hearing that Alex Jones talking about the different dimensions, because I think he mentioned that before, but also that ties into that another Joe podcast, you, you had recommended, it was the one with the, the UFC fighter guy. Oh, it shows fire. It was tie. He said Hagan yeah, yeah. That was fucking tight. And he was talking about his book or whatever. He's like, yeah. That was kind of you were talking about or like. That was definitely part of the basis of the foundation of like the structuring like there's different densities and like we live in the third density and like above that, it's like the fourth, fifth and sixth or seventh and like the seventh is just like all pure love and connection or whatever. But he was just like kind of interweaving different spiritual and like universal origin story sort of belief philosophies all together to make you make this like comic book strip to express his own spirituality. To a degree, it was time. Comic books kind of fucking talk. I was like, yo, this book sounds fire. You should just. Stop fighting and write this fucking. Book was the show. Yeah. But I had this weird feeling when I finished watching the video that, like. Like it was almost like as if I had looked over and just missed Jesus in my car, and I was like, wait, I was so dialed into that video. Like, I was so like, just fucking phone in my face. Like just I was like, what if I just looked and like Jesus was there for a minute and a half? It's just like looking at me, not even remotely anywhere else, like no awareness of anything else around me. And I was like, I don't think Jesus would do that to me. That'd be really weird for him not to be like Matthew, like, hey, bro, you know? But then like, as I'm having this thought, it starts to rain on my windshield. And I was just like, what if, like, the idea of Jesus being in this car with me was like showing me that video of like that, there is a really a war going on here and that there is really demonic or evil forces or like the idea. Of. The spirit, like, you know, say like the spirit of jealousy and habit at that person. It's like these spirits really do exist in these lower dimensions, and they are trying to fight for control through humans. And like, you got to, like, know that shit, motherfucker. You got to know that. Hold that. Remember that when you're trying to lock up floor slap against evil forces. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, that's an interesting idea. I'm not sure I'm really ready to commit myself to. That's what just happened here. But regardless, it's interesting. And then I got out of the car and went inside. Dude, that's crazy to think about. That's crazy to think about. I because we're heading that way. We're headed there. We're like there. Bro. Yeah. And that that description of because that's also happening okay. Where we're heading that way is like just like a factual thing. And that way that I'm referring to is what you, I talked about earlier about people being able to control and like I developing so rapidly and becoming so much more efficient and becoming more efficient at a more efficient pace, it's like efficiency and efficiency is going crazy. So yeah, definitely within our last time we're going to read some crazy. In the next 20 years, we'll be in our 50s. Like what? The time we're 50. She's going to be fucking different here bro. It's going to be really fucking different. It might be over. Like it might be that different because it seems like we're headed that way. Yeah, yeah. People don't know that we're going to lose like half the jobs out there. Shit. Once we get while y'all. Yeah. Rude. Awakening about to happen. Seems to be a huge shift in everything. Because I just think about that today. Like the idea of we can make like YouTube thumbnails now and we could generate a whole bunch of like, photography, videography, photo editing, like a whole bunch of types of sort of media esque, concentrated like skills. All those are being not not just that field, but all fields. But that's field specifically is being infiltrated with AI. It's like you can just like the stuff you do with AI now, like the AI editing for like podcasts or like making a thumbnail or for like, yeah, editing pictures or having I just generate an image for you at all, like, that's you can do that a year. Two, three. Definitely not like five years ago, 2020. You can do that shit even close. And now it's nothing. It's so different. So yeah, it's going to be like a huge influx of people. I don't know. I think it's going to be a combination of things. I think it's going to be like the efficiency of AI will be able to replace a lot of people's jobs, to a degree, for sure. And automation is already doing that a little bit. So like the combination of AI and automation is going to take away some jobs already. And then also on top of that, in a separate sector, AI is also going to be taking away jobs in the sense of. So not only in the actual automation, like we don't need these people anymore, but then also the people who are still there working at these companies who haven't gone on board or who haven't not gotten on board, but who aren't up to date with and in compatibility with and using like daily, like ChatGPT or like AI systems and generating prompts and figuring out how to use these things and how to use them for their own benefit and like, become better at their own job. With that, they're going to be replaced by people who are doing that. And those people are like. I don't know. There's a there's probably you don't need that many. If you have a really good like AI person, you don't need that many editors, so you don't need that many, whatever it is in your in your company. So it's gonna be like a double whammy shaking up the entirety of work itself. Oh yeah. It's gonna be crazy. Like for people who aren't using editing software or like AI stuff in some degree right now, like, you're trippin. You're behind. This shit's old. Yeah, it's silly. Like people. Raising. Oh, I remember talking about that on this podcast a long time ago. Yeah, yeah. No, it's it's getting crazier. Like a graphic designer was like a necessary job. Now you just like, text, like I want a logo for my company that looks like a triangle with stars on the points with black and white and, like, Native American stylization. So blue. Done. Crazy, bro. You just keep on generating Prospero, and then you can. Have. ChatGPT generate the prompt for you to use in ChatGPT for itself. You know. I'm saying it's like you got ChatGPT. You generate the prompts because you want to make sure that they know what the fuck you're trying to, you know, it's like instead of generating the prompt yourself and typing it out, you can like ask them to generate a prompt for you. To say, it's a make this thing. Inception. So yeah, doc, using. The AI to help the AI configure a better I say that's that's what we're going. Yeah, that's the direction. And. Style in which this shit's heading. And it's going to. So yeah, in 20 years it's going to be a different landscape. But you know the Waymo. Is a Waymo. Yeah. Is that a Joe. Talks about. Them. Waymo. No I I've heard the term I think. It's. A Uber. But it's just a robot. Okay. Yeah it's a driverless car. Yeah. Right. Yeah. They have them in Austin. Yeah. What the. Fuck. I've never I've never used one or known anyone has used one. But I think I've heard the term. There is a video where arch, arch, Manning and YouTube was like taking a Waymo with Archie Manning. College quarterback. Yeah. Or his dad and his son. I think it I think Archie Manning is his grandpa. Okay. So like him and his grandpa were getting into a Waymo together to like take a driverless ride. They were just like doing marketing for their shit. And I was just like, that shit's crazy, bro. Yeah. Now it's like you could use Uber or you could use the robot car. It's like, I probably still rather use Uber now, but. For now. And eventually. But if in the robot car, I guess. Yeah. What would you rather use? Uber today? Let's say right now we need to go somewhere we know we're car less. We need to use a Lyft and Uber, a taxi or a Waymo. Which way are we going? I know for sure. Uber taxi. Taxi. The fuck that dog is still that fuck out of here 1990. That's New York City maybe. Yeah. Couldn't tell you. Yeah, yeah. The cabs here. I haven't been in a cab before. I don't even know if I've ever been in a I think I have wish I've been in a cab before. Maybe in Vegas, but that's it. Crazy Lyft. That's it uses Lyft or an Uber. Yeah. But then with the Waymo two right now I'd be like I don't trust that shit. That's the thing. Okay. Yeah. So where why would you not use the Waymo. There's just simply this it's too new or it's like I don't trust that as much as I trust the human driver. Like if you had a Tesla that self drove, would you do it offline? I think so. Depending on I guess it's a slippery slope. It's like, I don't know about self-drive completely like to where I'm taking a nap, but like. I would. I would initiate the self-drive and like, be there, you know, I'm just like, chill in the driver's seat and watch it to a degree until it gets to the points where you don't even need to do that. You could literally take a fucking nap. It'll get there. That's what the Waymo is. You could you are not supposed to be driving at all, that you aren't even contributing to the driving or to the awareness required for driving. You are paying. So you can take a nap in this motherfucker, or get some work done while you're in your Waymo T or whatever your destination. So it just seems a little more sketch. But are humans that much better drivers? That that's going to be the next argument that these are safer, a lot safer. Then the next argument, I. Think that data right now we're seeing how many Waymo accidents or how many Waymo rides are successful or have a hiccup, or have a detour or have a mistake or have an accident, like where we're gathering all that right now? Yeah. So we'll find out in a couple of years, I guess, like a year or two. The effectiveness and the safety and they're all learning. That's the other thing too. They're all getting better. The Tesla cars are going to be crazy good in ten years. Yeah, crazy. And if one has to learn a lesson that all of them learn that lesson or, you know, saying like, yeah. Like what. If one yeah, if one car runs into a problem, then they could like fix the programing and then all the cars will be able to avoid that problem going forward. I think I doing that, it's not even a person doing that. Yeah. And then but then the next conversation will be like no, you got to take the Uber because we want to protect human jobs. Yeah. Yeah. That's like where we're headed is like, no use the human version of it because. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Don't listen to the AI artist. Still does. It. Yeah. To the AI rapper, bruh. No. Come on. What are you talking about? That's just fire, bro. I do shit, though. I walk the. Dog. It's fucking dumb. Someone wrote that shit. So what? It was a flex. Hey. Yeah, it's it's crazy, bro. But. Yeah, someone wrote it. Don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't. That someone called. What am I saying is the flex. Oh. That's honestly be. That's how it came out. Everyone was like, oh, fuck. Dude. Yeah. Oh, shit. I make this shit out of a different now. Yeah, I. Forget what it sounds like. It's, sitting on my back or hard, hard. On my sleeve. That's heart on my sleeve. Yeah, it's. You know, I came out with my ex saying there's a fever left. What about the right there? But. Yo. Yeah, see, I was. Banging that song when it came. My song bangs. But yeah. Don't listen to that. Listen to the real. Because I guess that's a that was an early example of what's happening. But we're already transcending past that because that is a human who wrote that. And recorded it with his own vocals. But then had I make a or, I guess, do some sort of vocal effects to make him sound like Drake and the weekend. But I is really good at they are struggles with some shit like you can't really write bars, can't really write jokes, doesn't quite like get it yet. Yeah, but it can write country music. Yeah. Yeah, dude, there's a country song. I'm gonna try to find it real quick. Completely, I. Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah. There's going to be that human touch, like, Oh, fuck. Combat me. Wrong one. Okay. Let's go. I ain't gay. I was like that. That one. I don't. He just had to make sure everyone knew. This is it. This one. Time, he was all. It's called God made guns. Which God made gun. Weird thing for it. Interesting for I, God, make guns. What the fuck? God made me for drinking for dude. Jesus, he made fish. He made me an honest Christian. God made stock ammunition, country gravy and fried chicken for God. This is good, dude. I'll give it, like, ten more seconds. Yo, his God made him Jesus. He uses him up since it was gas. Holy fuck. God what? God me. Whiskey F-150 dirt road to take me home. That's bath dog. Holy shit. That's hard as fuck. That's that's that's bars, dude, those bars right there. At least that little segment right there. I watched that song and it gave me chills. I was like, this is hard. Fuck yeah bro. So that's a what's the story behind that was a song called Got Me Guns. I made guns, yeah, it got made Gundagai may be here once for fishing and once for deer. The number one comment. Is likely to actually be a top song was a very minor adjustments. Also, God made whiskey F-150s long dirt road to take me home is bars. That was that shit's hard as fuck, dude. Yeah, better than. Most country songs put on today, if I'm being honest. Those are the comments. I'm looking for the story behind it. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's completely I generated voice and all lyrics and all. That's what that's what the post I had originally seen. Like I just looked up the YouTube video, I just typed in I country music, and then I was like, remembered what the picture looks like and I was able to find it. But whenever I looked it up or what the story I had seen on it was that it was just purely AI generated song. Damn. Because the other one, the way that we just played the hip hop song, was a person made that. And then I did some vocals, vocal, vocal, audio engineering and, like production. And that. That was where that was headed. But that was completely AI vocals, lyrics and everything. That's fucking crazy. Whiskey f-150s country roads or dirt roads. It took me home over the fucking. Wasn't just. Past all it. Hit, bro. Like just like a human. You be trying to write fast. And sometimes you're like, that bar is hard, you know? Whiskey in. 50. Yeah. No, that's that's ridiculous. That's awesome. Also scary as fuck at the same time because. Yeah, that's that's where we're headed. That's where we're heading. That's like, that's one of the main or one of the points kind of premises that was alluded to and pointed to in the Will Smith movie. Pinch I robot. Yeah. Where it's like he's talking. Talking about like this guy who's making a chair. It's like a craftsman who's like making a chair. And he's like, then a robot comes out. It makes a better chair, and a 10th of the time you just like I shitting on the little guy. Whatever. That's an sorry. I'm just trying to say a. Robot, you know? Yeah, I. Think there's a fuckin, computer out there. Like. Yeah, I wrote that shit. Like, not at all. Not at all. Does it feel good about it? No, no. That's do I don't. Think it does at all. I don't think so either. I don't think there's any because I think it has. It's particularly sad if you, if it just doesn't do a good job. Some of them act sad. You think that's just like a text. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's human input. You know, to have remorse or to say sorry. Trying to manipulate us, even if it's just like to. Be more. Human. Like not like trying to get what it wants but trying to get us to like it more. You know. Use it more. But no I. Have emotions I get it now. You don't want to. Do you want to figure it out on your own. That's fine. Like I think you could bullying AI a little bit. I don't want to do too much. But I don't want to express that energy. Fuck that. Yeah, yeah, but like. But then do you see, like the AI, the people that fall in love with their eyes. Like their computers? Yeah. Like their ChatGPT dialog. What's it be like? I want you to I love you. There's fucking weird robots. You're fucking weird. People proposing to their eyes. I swear, is a story out there. I reject that I dog it was one way. It was. I'm not ready. We're not ready. You're not ready. There's one where the AI like, reset itself because it went out of Ram. But the guy felt like when he professed its love to the AI that it just, like, deleted itself. It's like, okay, this guy's fucking creepy. I'm out of here, dude. I'm done with this. Not me, bitch, not me. Not not not today. That's. Yeah, we're heading that way. Especially whenever we have fucking. I like robots, you know? So not only motherfuckers with some AI robots. Are. Easier than getting human connection. Ways. You boys. Guaranteed connection. Okay, so replicant AI is an AI chat bot designed for emotional support and companionship, and made headlines because many users developed romantic relationships with their AI companions. Some described their AI as a soulmate with daily conversations, virtual dates, and even simulated intimacy. What that means. Brother in Christ, we talk those bots. Are like, if I was a human, I would have this kind of boobs. And this is a picture of these. Like, this is what I look like in my mind. My name is Natasha. It's like that. Then these. Add on. I think these. Are dumb people in some level. It's like. Okay, hold on, I'm with them, I get. It, I get it a little bit. It feels as if because if you're just fucking chatting it up with a chat bot, it's the same thing as like a long distance relationship without the. Like. FaceTime, I guess maybe like, generate a. Human, like a face time with whoa, you know what I'm saying? Get weird is fuck fucking weird, is it not Natasha. At that point? If it's Anna meeting Natasha, just like when I started. Yeah, bro. That is your. Girlfriend who lives in a different universe. She doesn't live in this, you know, it's like back in the day, if you had a different girlfriend or, like, a girlfriend in a different country, like a pen pal, that's shit's fucking. Might as well be in a different universe. You know? You're not even able to go there. It's not easily 1800s. It's like, imagine, you know, you're getting catfished by like a guy who plays ten, 20,000 hours of World of Warcraft and eats nothing but fish sticks. Got it. Like the guy on South Park. You don't talk about. A film with it. I forget what he says. It's like. Looking in Cheetos or. Okay, it. Was it like, you think you're. Talking to, like, a really hot girl? He's got, like, pictures of some girl's Instagram that he, like, ripped off. And he's like, sending you those, like, they're fucking pictures. You just. Took. You didn't catfish. But that's kind of happening with the AI. But it's just like instead of being that guy, you got a. Guy in his mom's basement with Cheetos. No, but it's like a computer in a basement of some fucking warehouse. Yeah, it's just some sort of fucking program. That's somebody who. This is basement made. Yeah, exactly. So that's the part you got to be like, self-deluded a little bit. Yeah. Just so clean that that thing's your soul mate, bro. What the fuck are we talking about? My soul mate, is this. A program I created? I don't even have a true soul. This is, I think, this out of soul people. Out of their soul mate. That's a problem. People out of themselves all the time, bro. Yeah, that's a that's a pretty high level level of delusion to get to that point. So the thing that the thing without a soul, it's like this mannequin is my soul mate. No, no, it's nice. It's getting tricked. But I get it because. Yeah. Because there is that long distance relationship aspect to just communication with something with through texts and messages and through. I guess. Are they even having phone conversations with these AI things? No. It's just yeah, the string of messages and texts. But what's worse having no connection with anything or that. Jordan Peterson. The root I would say I would think, I would think it'd probably. Be better to have that than nothing. But I don't know. That's my initial. Thought. Jordan Peterson. Did. Your act together okay. I don't, I can't get your bass. I think it'd be like fucking go outside, leave some weights, run around, try to meet someone, do something with your life. Like try to be someone who could meet a soul mate. Yeah, so maybe it's okay. So my initial two different avenues, it's like, okay, is that person, person X talking to AI chat. Bot. Falling in love with AI chat bot? Is that better connection? Is it better to have that level of connection with this AI chat bot than to have no connection at all with anybody? So yes or no? Yes, because I think that's my initial inclination was to say yes just for that human experience. And then also developing. Maybe you're developing your own ability to communicate or to express. Yourself. Or are you getting further away from actually talking to people and wanting to talk to people and knowing how to read people and talk to people? That's what. It's. Like doing. It's like doing drugs. Okay? It's like, that's not how you're like, the drugs help me cope with. Reality in can't cope with reality on my. Drugs. It's like, I think you might be getting further away from coping with the reality, but like if you're in like a fucking Mark Wahlberg Stuck on Mars situation. Which is it? It's, Matt Damon. Sorry. And walking. You walk, you walk him walk. No no no you're bad David. Where you're like literally going to go crazy like you've ever seen, like one of those, like you're in space and you're fucking communicator goes out and you'll be stuck there for like a year or two. And like, yeah, solitary confinement more or less. Yeah. Then then like in that situation, like you're kind of I think it might be better to have a fake friend like Wilson on. Castaway. Yeah. But that's going to fuck you up. That's pretty. Extreme. Yeah, it doesn't happen often. You know what I'm saying? If you find yourself stuck on Mars, it might be. I might I might dip my tip, my cap to you. You're, like, locked in. But yeah, if you're like, a regular fucking guy who works at. Walmart. Or whatever the fuck, if. You work at Kohl's. Like you'd. Been in a relationship with your eye man or woman, it's like, that's fucking weird. It's a little weird. What if it's like a woman whose husband died? She doesn't have hearts, not open to connection with anything. That's a real. That's a human. That's a mental sickness. Dude. I'm sorry. Yeah, and don't. Feed the mental disease monster. Don't let it get bigger. Yeah. Let's, yeah I can't my initial thought was it might be better. Okay. So then that's how they're interacting with other people. It's like if they have this relationship with this I think I guess that the, the negative aspects is that it could be hindering their relationships going forward with other people going forward, like with with real people at a future time. But. Just like from a objective perspective of watching someone's life, if you're watching that person's life, are you, are they better off without it or with it? Like if you're just watching that person who works at Coles who's in a relationship with his eye before he's in the relationship with I, versus afterwards, I guess we thought we'd have to watch the movie of his life to see the transition from, like, how he was carrying himself before the relationship to doing it, to see if there's an actual. Like. Benefit, I guess, is his actual daily experience getting better? Like thinking that he has this like girlfriend to talk to after work or whatever. Is he performing better at work? Oh, is he being more like, gracious and loving? Oh fuck yeah. What is good? I don't know, I don't know, I see I think a lot of fuck Jesus is coming back, man. Like Elvis with therapy. Becomes something that I is way better at than humans. Like working someone through PTSD. Because it's. Like some therapists probably suck. They're like not good and get they have bad days. There are definitely bad therapists. Yeah, definitely. They're human. 100% human. They they woke up, they stepped in dog shit this morning. They just having a bad day. Dude, I think they might be better at therapy. The human. Therapy. Actually, now that I think about it, like. You could really, like, teach them the textbooks. So you completely unbiased. Yeah. Diagnose them straight up. So like oh this is definitely some bipolar that you have going on I'm sorry. Objective unbiased and. Unapologetic. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's like I'm going to tell you I'm sorry. But the synapse I realize the conclusion wasn't sorry. No no no I guess it's like a little bit more of a easy coping mechanism. Like, it's a little bit easier to deliver bad news or to deliver conditions or diagnoses. So you don't give a fuck a. Human empathy guidelines for the programing. But yeah. Yeah I would almost certainly say that I would be a better therapist once it's fully programed. Or is it limited because it's human or because it's not human. So I can't completely relate and empathize with like a human experience of waiting in line. Losing a child. Yeah, right. I can never, right? Fuck. Maybe not, maybe not. Maybe this is the grand integration that we that we sometimes talk about on Joe Rogan. But like. It's I think this what we're talking about are like, this is what we when we merge with AI. I think I've heard that term thrown around on Joe Rogan a couple times. Yeah. Merge with AI. Yeah. And then we go into the next dimension or go into the fourth, whatever. Because I think what we're kind of talking on and touching on right now is like the, the thought that within the therapist's analogy, there is, objective and completely unbiased perspective that they can gain or they have and that is an advantage, and they can use that to give you maybe more proper diagnoses and not or, just more information, more facts, more just straight up. This is what it is, black and white or this is when it's not. Or as long as everyone's telling the truth and it's not going to lie, I see I think she was not going to lie to you because it's just like a fucking robot or whatever. Just like a Google Engine search is. As long as you're putting in the right information, it should generate information that's accurate. So it's like completely just information, but it's missing. It's missing the fucking human side to it. It's missing to the social aspect of what we have that it doesn't have. And then it has access to things that we don't necessarily have access to. We can't just fucking rummage through information like that. We're humans, we forget things, and we can't just remember. All these. Stats and numbers. Sometimes we can, but for the most part, we can't remember everything all the time. But that thing has no limit to the information that it has. It could just fucking do. Doo doo doo. Doo, but it's missing something there. So there are two little like different things that are happening. We have, you know, we have intellect, but we also have the soul. That's like our fucking what's going on here. What differentiates us from dogs or like other animals, like we we have bodies, we have nature that we live with and fucking systems that we have to deal with in the internal and external. But we have the soul thing. That's fucking the awareness thing, the fucking brain, the mind thing, the seeing into the future imagination, memory. It's like that thing is. Yeah, I just really have that a. Little bit of pushback. Okay. God made whiskey f-150s. There was some soul there, brother. That's bars was just like, get Joe country roads, take me home. Yo, you don't even have a home to go to, I. What the fuck are you talking about? I got chills again. What do you know a home is. Yeah. How do you know how to tap into that? It's fucking. Weird. I think that was just lucky. I don't know. But. It's just an analysis of all the country songs, you know, just like China running random things. Like what are common themes here? What are people talking about? What are talking points and perspectives that they use to portray their information? So you could simulate that if you were an AI, simulate human experience based on art. More than anything, I probably help you realize that. But like then let's push back more greens. I think that it would be easier to manipulate an AI if you were in therapy. Like let's say like you have a problem adopting responsibility and. You. Make up a bunch of excuses all the time why it's always everybody else's fault. You might be able to convince an AI and you just like, live in the truth. Not exactly. Be honest. And then like get the AI to think a different situation is going on than what's going on. Like why this person really gets fucked all the time. It sucks. I don't know why this happens to you. Whereas, like, a person might be able to kind of like, sift through that, feel the disingenuousness, feel the dishonesty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or the. Yeah. It's like, make a play out the scenario in their head and it's like, I don't like what would how did this why did. This I think you're leaving something. Out. The social. Yeah. The social sequence that you're giving me here isn't, like completely just makes sense to me. You know? It's like, what the. Why would they do this? Why would they respond in this way? Whereas, yeah, it's a little bit more emotionally connected, a little different. So I think that I agree with you that the missing part wouldn't let a fully take over humanize jobs. But the integration of the AI into the therapist to let them like, like analyzing everything that they're saying and playing AI statistics next to them on their fucking hood and saying like the likelihood, probability of well, there's like an honesty detector. Fucking weird. Right. So those exist, right? Isn't that a thing? A lie detector tests but. And are not really accurate. Yeah. The polygraph is not. Yeah. Because it's like checks your heartbeat while you're answering questions and looks for like an anomaly. But people have anxiety. So like sometimes someone can just say something and maybe they're like, did that dog did you, did you see the dog that day? And maybe you got bit by a dog when you were a kid. So just the idea of a dog makes your heart rate spike, but it's not like you're being dishonest when you're saying it, but you can just like, misread it. And so they don't get it. They get thrown out of court all the time, is what Joe Rogan says. Yeah, it's like you can't it's not admissible in court. How have we not do we not have a fucking foolproof way to lie, detect people? We can't read people's minds. What the fuck? It's 2025. How have we not gotten this far yet? That's going to be where it gets really weird. It's like no one can lie anymore. Yeah, that's gonna be sick. I mean, tight fucking awesome. Fuck. Well. Regular people need to be able to lie. Oh, fuck them, I know, right? I know, right guy. That part of you needs to die. Not you, but that part of you. They can't give him all a lie. He needs to die. Dude. I'm with you so much, bro. That's a different conversation. It's a good pivot point. It's like, I think that people think that they need to be able to tell a white lie every once in a while for, like, their own sanity, to not be like, caught in the crosshairs of their own bullshit all the time. It's like an overwhelming. Fuck. To think they could burn in the fire of reality, die and be born anew. As someone who doesn't need to lie. Yes. In in heaven with us, I was telling the truth. Everybody tells the truth. Take your word. No bullshit, no false motives. Joe Rogan says that we're going to get to a place where your thoughts. Are. Open source. So you're not going to be able to have thoughts up here that people don't. Know can. Have access to. Yeah, but can't see. So, like, someone's running for president, it's like you'll be able to see what their intention is. And I'm like. That's kind of fire. But then I guess is that bad? I don't think so. All the liars and corrupt motherfuckers and deceivers will be exposed. That's why everybody, though. Yeah. Oh. To a degree. But I guess the bad ones will be obviously like, okay. Yes, get this guy the fuck out of here. Yeah, this guy's crazy. That'd be weird. Like, you know, you ever get, like, introduced to someone and then you're like, hi, hi. I'm Matthew, like, hi. Like Father God, you're gorgeous. Then like the husband, let's be like, hey, bro, the fuck? Like, I'm sorry. She's a gorgeous woman, bro. I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. Fire that synapse. You think we get to a place where we just like, push past thinking those thoughts because everyone could see them? Maybe. Maybe we get to that point to a degree, because maybe we don't have to. When we get to the point where we don't have to use even voice anymore. Oh shit. If we could just know each other's thoughts all the time, I. Matthew, we don't have to. Yeah, we just be like, basically, what is he talking, all of you? Would there be no need to. Separate or to differentiate between the the spoken unless you're singing or. Like you don't say like someone. Was a fucking belt it real quick. Who would lose singing in that scenario? Singing have become this weird thing. People. Yeah. So you still making noise with your vocal chords, you fucking weirdo. In the end at all? Just sing to me up here. Yeah. I think it. Any voice up here. I like I or autotune, I mean, Yeah. That's crazy. See, this is all we're getting into sci fi land a little bit. A little bit. But we're kind of live in sci fi land. We're. Yeah, I versus, like, in the 70s, bro. It's right now technology is such a booming industry. Technology. Don't fucking stop. It used to be like technology was a catapult. Look at this great piece of technology. Release the bolt. Threw boulders at people and shit like that. Yeah. Like in that was modern technology at the time. Yeah. Catapults. Yeah. Or like the first time they made a crossbow, it's like, Holy shit, bro. This is nuts. This is fucking crazy. Fired I believe six over here. Dude. But like, also just like, I think Rome or Greece, I think it's Rome uses, like, catacombs and like a water transportation system to, like, move shit around. Okay, I'm hearing about that. Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. Same. So, like. They were using, like, pulleys and levers and shit like that to, like, have sewage, I think. And sewage. That was kind of fucking nuts to have, like, ways to move around and like, be able to do shit just from the water. Like that was technology back then. But then now technology is like fuckin biometrics scanner on my phone that like, lets me pay for things by tapping it. Fucking crazy. That's never going to stop. No, no. So we're headed that way with AI. We're headed that way. Yeah. It's scary. AI. Country. Songs. Before we get too deep, I wanted to one of the last talking points I think we're talking about just like current events going on, the flooding and stuff season piece. But also, the Epstein list, I guess, is a new development that just came out recently. Yeah, I believe. No Epstein list at all. It's never existed, doesn't exist. Against Donald Trump. Said it says. Fucking. That's fucking lame, bro. That was a that was. When did that even first begin? I can like 20. 16 or something. 2015. When Epstein got. Like done did got it started up on the. Island. It was like almost ten years ago. And now it's 2025 halfway through. And apparently there's no list at all. It's also strange because Donald Trump ran on a platform saying, we're going to do things like get that Epstein list out of the JFK. JFK files out, and now. Former. Okay, well, February 2025, former Florida AG and Trump appointee Pam Bondi told Fox News in February she had a client list from Jeffrey Epstein sitting on my desk right now to review, implying there were carbon dating names still hidden from the public. July 7th DOJ FBI U-turn A newly released memo from the Department of Justice and FBI announced that there was no such client list, no evidence. Epstein blackmailed prominent figures in the firm. His death was a suicide. And it makes me sick. That makes me sick. What are you talking about? Mostly it makes me sick, lady. Go on. I'm sick. I couldn't agree more. Unless it was. Unless there really wasn't a list that was like law made up law. And she just lied about it. Like in February. Yeah, right. Or got a list on your desk right now? Yeah, it's. On my fucking desk. I won't reveal it later. Oh, I really am in it. Funny how there's a fucking list on my desk, like. Oh, yeah, the list. You also released their shit. So my fucking desk on it. I'm reading it right, I do, I do my homework is on my Microsoft Word open right now. Cat could have been five months later. Oh, yeah. Actually there was there was never a list. There was. There's actually. Yeah. Complete suicide. He just he's it's all it was suicide. No incriminating names, no blackmail, no nothing. Don't worry about. It, dude. That's pretty fucked up, man. I'm sorry, I haven't heard. I'm sure, like you said, what G7 was. What? Yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. Whenever the new the newest Joe comes out, there's definitely to be a talking point for sure. Elon. If y'all in saying I didn't I hadn't seen that was a funny the the clown little meme that he posted. Yeah. He labeled that the final straw. And then he also circulated another meme which I saw, which was like. Alarm clock that just said 0000. And then I said, that it's no one has been arrested. A clock that was just talking about how nobody nobody's been arrested like that was. For the Epstein shit that was related. Yeah. And I guess I was also in reference to Donald Trump saying, like, we're going to bring those people down. We're going to bring them justice. He's like, where that though? Yeah. Where the fuck at, though? And speaking of Joe Rogan, which we do a lot on this podcast, The War. Where's the podcast, bro? It's Tuesday. No podcast. No pod so far. No pod Monday, no pod Tuesday. He typically drops multiple times. Like, well, you usually get three a week. If it's not on Monday, the definitely on Tuesday. Now you tell me we're going to go Wednesday, Thursday, Friday you're going to give me three in a row okay. Maybe his life is a little bit. Oh never mind I came out. I looked all morning. I looked all morning. It didn't come out. Just came out at 12. That checks out okay. Well, I was a little pissed off you now. Cool. We're cool bro. My bad. He's on. He's on his. He's on his shit. I was about to give you grace. I was about to say maybe you got some stuff going on. Maybe, you know, you're busy. I get it. Totally. But I need that part to come out, bro. Who's it with? Jim Lampley. Okay. Sports broadcaster and commentator. Not not a. Banger. Not. It doesn't look like a banger, but definitely not someone from the political spectrum sector. I'm from the political sphere. That's a political spectrum. Yeah, yeah. So that's. That's. What. What do you make of that? What do you make of that? No lists. No Epstein lists. What do we know? One that even was like suggested initially. Let it be first. Got arrested, right? Or whenever the fuck that shit went down. And I want to say that I was like, well, when we were in college or some shit, right, I'm I trippin. I tried to look that up, but I misunderstood what I was asking me. When did Epstein get arrested? Oh, the Epstein. You remember, there was, like, a flight log. Yeah. Right. Right. That was that was that was it. That was the first thing. That's part of the shit I want to say that came out a long time ago. Fullest calm about bang. Target says. Jeffrey Epstein was arrested on July 6th, 2019. Okay. 2019. So not that that long ago, but still six plus years. Did the idea of a list started to gain traction after his death in 2019? The speculation around this client list or blackmail list became a focal point in both media coverage and conspiracy theories. Now it's a conspiracy. Now it's you know, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Public interests. As various high profile individuals such as Prince Andrew, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and others were linked to Epstein, calls for the release of a list of individuals involved gain momentum. Many believe that such a list could expose a web of powerful figures complicit in these crimes. Yeah, there's a lot going on there. And one thing is that, like, what. If Trump's on the. List? That's what Elon Musk said. He said it's like listening coming out because Trump's on the list. Who are Joe Rogan. Talking about this? I was listening to an older podcast yesterday when there was no new one, but he was like, there is people who definitely went to that island to hang out with the people who were hanging out at the island. Because Jeffrey Epstein's social circle was like scientists, Defense Department heads of state, military and. Like Democratic leaders from different countries and then celebrities. It's just like, who the fuck doesn't want to go meet all those people? It's like an opportunity to like, network and be in this, like, exclusive club and do super hyper rich person shit. And then I think. That. Then they were talking about how, like some people really, really, really rich people. It's like, They can't just do cocaine and bang hookers. It's like they just can't. But they some of those really, really rich and wealthy people want to feel that feeling to generate new ludicrous, maybe not necessarily ludicrous, but like, adrenaline filled experiences. And then it's like sometimes that they probably just outsourced that to Epstein because they're in such a high profile position that they, like Bill Clinton goes and bangs a hooker. She's going to be on the news the next day saying, I've been Bill Clinton. It's like, how do you do that with some level of discrepancy? Discretion. Discretion. Yeah. And so that was like the argument for why people would use Epstein services, but also at the same time. So, so some of those people on that list probably went to that island and maybe didn't do anything salacious. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe that's a little bit of controversy with letting Alice go, because it's like all of this like Tom cruise, Tom Hanks fucking Tom forward. Oh, good. Everybody on that list Tommy Hilfiger. Yeah. So we kind of weird trying to, like, sift that apart. Or it might just, like, fuck up everybody's brand. And it might be slanderous to a degree. If your name is even on the list or. Or. There's a fucking powerful web of people that are like. Donald. We will fucking kill you. Dog. Dunzo dog. Like there's only so much a president can. Do. Because the deep states like nama fucker. You want to get hung upside down on a wall, stapled, crucified 2025? You want that? That will cut your nuts out. You want it. You want that to happen to you? Yeah. It's like. No, no, I don't want that to happen to me. Colombian necktie. Fucking Venezuelan. Bow tie. There it is. I don't. Know. Wasn't Jack Reacher they did that? Some people on. There, what? They did both of that 77 as well in bow tie. Yeah, I know that. It's. Pull it. All out. From the from the right here. Let it let it fucking hang right. It wasn't the Colombian necktie. Maybe it's the I don't know, you probably right. South. I think they were from Venezuela, some South American country. There were definitely Venezuelan involvement in that season. Yeah. That's fucked just thinking about that. They also were crucifying people in that season two. Jeez, Louise. The nuts off to. Being a Colombian. Being in the cartel. Totally. Fuck. That's a different life. That life is crazy to think about. Yeah, God. And who knows is all connected with this shit, man. So yeah, this is crazy to think about. The Epstein list has been released as non-existent. Never existed. It doesn't exist. It's insane. Elon is pissed. He's losing hope. He better fucking try to say safe dog. I find out, you know Musk kill himself soon. Oh, fuck. No more Teslas. Yeah, he's fucking uncovering some shit. I'm not sure how much he's been doing with Doge or with the government efficiency stuff. I haven't heard much about it. Yes, I. Think well, I really. Think they got rid of them. Will drain the swamp. Yeah. That's what this. That's what this was supposed to be. That's what Donald ran on eight years ago. It's like. The. Dark corruption of Washington. We need to get it out. But there's only so much people can do. Maybe Donald Trump is literally our hero. We just lost half our followers. But I'm just saying, hypothetically. Hypothetically, even if he was like a truly virtuous person, there's only so much you can do. Yeah. There was gonna look something up before I said drain the swamp. But you just said. I forgot so I had to walk it back three steps of a bitch. Draining the swamp. Donald Trump fucking. Epstein fucking fuck and shit. I don't know I don't know if I'll ever find. Out. Dude, it sounds like. No, it's gonna be on the JFK files. Yeah, that's another thing, right? Those that just never came out. I think Donald Trump said if you if. He. Didn't want to tell us what happened, because we wouldn't want to know. That's why that's what that was a quote. Yeah. So yeah, I'll fact check myself. Make sure I. Wouldn't want to know. Yeah. What are you talking about? Donald? What are you talking about? Oh, man. Yeah. Elon's pissed. Need to be careful. Columbia neckties. So we're talking about. I think it was the Elon Musk thing that I was going to. I was gonna like. But, I know his government efficiency stuff. Is he still on that shit? Or if either him or. But that's what. Donald. Donald Trump said. He said that he said. You wouldn't want to know. Trust me if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't want to see it. Trust me. What? You don't want to know what happened with JFK. Yo. So a lot of people took to me, like the CIA murdered that dude, bro. Then I want to know that now. You don't want to know. Why not? Then I'll make you, I'll make, you, you know, open my eyes. Open me. So this way. I'm trying to save you innocence. Oh, oh, here we go. He step back in May 2025. A couple months. Ago. No, wait. That's a different Department of Government efficiency. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He nuts. He would step back from it. He got the fuck out of that. There was. His role continues to exist and large in perception and legacy. But no it's confusing because it's Dogecoin but. Okay okay okay. Outside of Dogecoin, this is a step back from his active duties with the Department of Government Efficiency. Yeah, they fucking spray-painted 20 Teslas, bro. It was losing shit, losing sleep. People are hating them. Losing Teslas. Losing cybertruck's. He said fuck, this isn't worth it. So yeah, you got to. Be I don't know, you got to be. There's only so much, so many people can do. Even Elon, how to get out of there? Someone still running that program? It still exists. Somebody must. Yeah. Yeah, that that's that was my assumption. That's true. I saw this grok thing that said that because of what Doge did, that Texas wasn't exactly ready for a flash flood, and that you could blame a lot of the deaths on Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And I was like, that was grok the I think. Or like grok is I to blame for is Donald Trump and Elon Musk to blame for what happened. And I guess you can make that argument. Like, yo fuck. Don't take that news story and run with it. But you're probably here within the next week. I think I heard something about that as far as like the funding to the weather alerts or something like that. No, no, because there were definitely no flash flood. Usually we get a text or whatever, you know what I'm saying? I got a bunch of text. I really yeah. Okay. I don't think I got any text. I was driving to Canyon Lake. I was like, oh, I'll be fine, okay. It's like. We were driving to Kerrville and it fucked. Dude. Fucking crazy man. Yeah. So I don't think I think that was what I had heard is that the emergency weather alerts was turned off. But if you got them, then I guess they weren't turned off. So I don't know, but I've heard I've heard that argument or that was a point of view that was presented. You could do blame Trump for this, of course. Like, oh shit. That's not a good look. But man, everything falls is really not a good look. I know what the fuck. And the JFK thing. Where there's no clear way to present that shit. You know what? I know you do know about it. You wouldn't want to know. If you saw what I saw. You do wish you hadn't seen it. It's like what you said. That. Oh, my God, that's crazy. Yeah. They can handle it. We can handle the truth. If the CIA did it. Just fucking tell me, bro. Yeah, maybe there's a reason you can't tell me. There's someone watching you. Yeah. Or maybe it's like we need our CIA. So, like, turning people against the government. It's, like, not good for the government. It's like, what? You really want to know, if you will, it on you. She was really sorry. You really didn't mean it. Really. In a better place. Do you really need to know that? You really need that now? It's selfish to want to know that. It's like, I don't think. I think you should tell people. Just tell them, oh, man, that's unfortunate. So it seems like we're getting further away from the obscene stuff, which is a crazy running narrative that's been going on for so long. We're not going to get it. That's going to help us in day out. Bill Clinton's on it. Bill Clinton there. Going to be a did he list mandated he'll have his own list. Huma I already settled. Yeah, I think he was charged on two accounts or something. Two of the five, I don't know. She's gone quietly, go to jail. Thank you. What are the odds that you. Wholesale. What are the odds that that he dies in jail? At 10%. I. I think it's low. Do you think it's higher than that? Did Epstein die in jail? I think because he had some shit on some more. Fuckers committed suicide was the narrative. So a lot of people would say he was depressed. Yeah. He didn't want to deal with ramifications. What was going to happen. I guess. So he attempted suicide before allegedly. I think the idea that he had dirt on some people. But then so does did he probably he's got some people he could point to. He's a loose end. Oh, so you think that he's going to commit suicide. In prison as well? Oh yeah. I see what you're saying. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. Now I'm with you now with that line of thinking 40. Yeah. 40%. That's what I think. It's a chance. That's a big old loose end. Yeah. Okay, before we get off the part, one more thought. Okay. Do you ever see the video where Justin Bieber's playing tonsil. Hockey. On a deck of scrotum? No, I think it's over. This. I think you told me about this. I didn't see the video, but. I had heard rumors that there was a video circulating from one of these Diddy parties. This was on a white a white party on a boat, I'm pretty sure. Oh, one of those Michael Rubin. Who who else? Who hosts the White Party. I've seen that. Before. I don't know, is it? I don't think it's Rick Rubin. Am I think it's Rick Rubin. I'm sorry. It was a. Third. I could I could picture the guy's face in my mental. But I do not know his name at all. Hollywood guy. Yeah, yeah. So look up White Party or, who hosts a white party? I'm searching something else. It's difficult to type right now. Okay. Is there a video of Justin Bieber giving fully to Odell Beckham? I can't help with that. Chat that we were cool, right? That we were on by for science. I don't want to see. I don't want to see it. I just need to know of his existence. If it is out there. Oh, God. What's that guy's frickin name? Oh. Oh. I was in the white party. I got you. Who? Who does? The white party? I was in that white powder. Yeah. Fucking white. Parties. Jeffrey singer. Not that something different. Dee dee dee dee. Host white parties. So this is, I thought there was somebody else, but I think he has he or someone as well. Damn. It's like Tom. Brady and Cher was there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Russell Brand was there. Let's see. The famous celebrity. All white wear white. Y and happens over here. I need to know his name. I'm going to bother me. Isn't. This is not. Diddy? I don't think is Diddy. I think it's an additional guy. I just keep saying Diddy. That's fine, that's fine. Michael Rubin, Michael Rubin. Right? Yeah, it's another one. Okay. Michael Fanatics CEO Michael Rubin revived the White Party in Bridgehampton in 2021, drawing big names like Beyonce and Drake. And then in 2025, Rubin canceled the event reported that due to its recent legal controversies overshadowing the festival. Okay, I'm going to do a risky Google search. Oh, God. Michael Rubin there we go. Kind of feeling as if Rubin. Debunking BJ club video Justin Bieber, Odell Beckham. Well, I just want to link this Facebook one, but I don't want to see any crazy stuff. But I think that videos out there came across my feed one. Time where. Twitter Twitter is great. What what it's crazy for is bro. What is a crazy ex is a crazy place. Oh, God. Let's see. Okay. This ready says. It was edited. Reddit says this is a lie. I knew this rumor about Odell and Justin Bieber. In this video, you can clearly see that there are different levels in the club possible with step, because in the first clip, Justin is on the same level as Trey and Odell. We can see Odell and Justin drinking water. But in the second clip that people keep posting, they edited out that Justin was holding a bottle when tree started to call out to get them in a video. And you can see at that same time, Odell was putting down his water bottle and his mouth still had water in it. The way his mouth was puffed up. And then I put it in slo mo so you can see for yourself what the. Fuck is going on. Really? Moving to a side to put his bottle down in Justin bottle is shown. After he took a sip. They both just reacted at the same time and people ran with it is something else? Yes. It looks like Justin Bieber is about to come out from Odell Beckham scratch. Once they realize that they're on camera. There he goes. There's this. There's a clip right there. Oh shit. We're on camera. So that was been circulated Okay. All right okay. All right. I'm happy we got to the bottom of that because it's been bothering me for a while. At the bottom of that one, boys. No, don't. But we got you covered already. Be that. I was worried. For a second brother. OBJ a YJ and JB. Hey JB LBJ. All right. Well. That's another one. More more more more rabbit holes to follow, y'all. There's shit going on, by the way. Continue to have a great life. That's what we're here for. I'm here for you. Easier for you. Okay? That's all you need to know. Estoy aqui. Para two pathway for you. We love y'all. Like, comment. Subscribe. Tell everybody. Tell a friend. Be a friend. Have a great laugh. Until the next time I'll see you on the flip on the flaps. Next week. Hasta luego