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What Jon Snow Taught Us About Manhood | The MJ38 Show #85
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Welcome in MJ 38 show 85 deep. Matthew and Justin here for you. Like. Comment. Subscribe. Motherfucker. We out here 85 deep. Come on. And I ain't stopping for shit. You got to kill me. You're going to have. To kill me. That's it. That's your only option. Oh! Oh, get on board. That's it. That's all you got? Sorry. Not sorry. Culp. Sorry, sorry. Come in with this heat. I feel good about it. You all your fault. All the fucking first down every time. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody to blame. And you know it's all your fault. Nobody. Nobody but boy matter to them records get. Shut it! You all. Right? Big Sean, Kanye West as a whole. Throwback. All your fault. Dark sky Paradise. Check it out if you haven't heard it. Yeah, it's fucking incredible. Speaking of music, Kanye West dropped new music, Lil Wayne dropped new music. Father's day was yesterday. We're going to drop this a week later, but either way, happy Father's Day. Positive masculinity. I'm fucking bout it. That's what this is coming in. Positive masculinity. Yeah, I was thinking about masculinity today or yesterday because I was thinking father's Day in general off just a shower. Thought it was just like masculinity. Part of because Pastor Ed went off our pastor SBC Father's Day service with him. He was more and part of what he he didn't preface it, but he sprinkled it in that this information, that Father's Day is like one of the most commonly missed, least attended church holidays or church weekends, rather, and he was like this. Yeah, it's just like a consistent thing. Fathers don't want to come to church mother's Day. People like the mothers drag the family to church is like the trope. But then Father's Day is like the opposite. Dad wants to just chill or wants a grill by the pool or wants to just watch the watch the game and have a beer. Even though the father's days in summer was a lot, games are hard for football are basketball. I was there a finals game. There should have. Been a fight. I was thinking the same thing. I was like this should be. It's just fucking Sunday night. Come on. All. We're all chilling at home. Yeah, yeah, I that would probably be the most viewed game. Is so funny you say that same thought. Yeah. Am I though? I guess said traveling but oh yeah. Those players of dads too. Yeah. That doesn't get out there play. Oh, watch your son. It's a. Fucking Thanksgiving. Christmas for sure. Yeah. The family's front row seats. Oh, watching that shit, everybody's watching. I said it's probably the most watched game. Yeah. Stole it on. That's like. Yeah, but, masculinity talking about masculinity. Least popular attended church holiday pastor at using that as, like, gas on the fire. He's like I'm just like talking like. But y'all ain't like that, though, because y'all here you go fucking. They go about this church service like, let's fucking I'm let's go off like man to man was like the the title of the sermon. Nice. So he was just like using that sort of standpoint. But then he was saying that in regards to some of the societal trends and feelings of masculinity, like toxic masculinity, like the though like Mary terms though. So he's like the word toxic masculinity are now like married and glued together to point towards like like man, manly behavior or being whatever that is deemed having backbone. Yeah. Being negative. Yeah I guess. Yeah. But then part of all that thinking thought tank in my own mental came to the idea of like positive masculinity because I use that yesterday or like was thinking about that term or like that idea. I think I use it actually in pre shift on Saturday, I think Saturday I was talking about I was just doing one of the persons mentioned, Fathers Day tomorrow, whatever. All the dads thank God for like being like the father to us and like for the positive masculinity. So like that was like kind of a seed that grew. And then yesterday I was thinking about it and today and like positive or like I think part of what it is is positive masculinity or masculinity in general, one of the one of the most distinct qualities of that differentiates masculine and feminine is just the like confrontation portion. Confrontation is like a masculine thing by nature, like that's just what it is, you know what I'm saying? It's very strange, but like there can. So that's what toxic masculinity is easy to attach to confrontation in general, because fights are confrontation. They're like pain comes from confrontation. Like if there's no confrontation, there's like no pain to a degree, you know? But like like the social waters are pretty still. But there is time when stories require positive confrontation to happen in order to set things more harmoniously and more right, more true, more beneficial for everyone involved. And that that requires confrontation. And confrontation is masculine in nature. I'm like, that's I'm sorry. It's like what it is like I'm fucking like masculine and feminine. Like, I made them like this day and night. Like it's just, what the fuck is going on here? There's just energy and I can natural inclination or natural like game mechanics that he put into the game of life of the matrix and like gave us this kind of thing about to combat with or to incorporate, to think about nuance and depth that's crazy beyond our comprehension. So like, I think this is like I was thinking about positive masculinity and that's why it's like positive. It's important to be able to have that confrontational moment or have that line of dialog or have that question or be able to say to somebody like, hey, like, can I ask you something? Or can I talk to you about something? Or can I express my voice, my opinions, my thoughts? Or like I'm displeased in this way, and I would like to try to make it like not just trying to complain or bitch, you know what I'm saying? But just like trying to have that moment of I want to set more of a even whatever harmony. Oh yeah. Harmony. Balance. Well, tyranny doesn't want that. Nah. Fuck no no. That's like yeah. He's like he's like the opposite of that. Yeah. It's like, fuck you. I'm gonna do what I want. Yeah. And you're going to do what I say. Yeah. It's like, no. Yeah. The person under the control of the tyrant or the that's. I guess that's partially where the negative masculinity toxic masculinity idea comes from. Like being a tyrant. Yeah. Being a dictator. Oh, we can also do other examples, like grab by the pussy. Yes. Toxic masculinity. Right. In our podcast right away. Bring it out. Grab me by the. Yeah. But yeah I think right. By the be. Like all that like gross locker room talk or like vulgar the idea not necessarily vulgar vulgarity just for vulgarity sake, but like there's a certain brand of locker room talk where it's like, you know, you're derogatorily talking about women or like saying like, oh, yeah, it wasn't belong in the kitchen. Make me a sandwich. Like, that's toxic masculinity. Big time. Yeah, totally. Saying, like, I think saying, like, I make the choices, I make the decisions, I make the money. Like, that's toxic masculinity. I think that there's times where guys are, like, being bullies, you know, even to, like, other guys and. Like, women can exhibit this, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You're right. Is it? This character is. Like this masculinity. Yeah. Whatever it is. 21 Savage says it in a song. He's like, you're my woman. Please stop acting like a bro. Stop being so savage. Right. That's the your lady. Yeah, that's like the bars. He's like. Why are you farting and burping? She's like, why are you going off on people? Like, can you, like, bring femininity to the table? You know what I'm saying? Like, you're being, like, really aggressive. Yeah. Being more like caring and nurturing and soft and compassionate and. Yeah, gentle is like, just feminine. Like men can exhibit that. Of course people can have all these aspects and personality types. No, I'm not saying women character is pigeonholed. Two dogs. Yeah, exactly. So there's time when women need to be confrontational. Yeah. The human, the the main, the hero in the story needs to fucking fight the bad guy sometimes. And like, the hero in the story also needs to like, treat their love interests with like care and nurturing in their children with love and compassion and patience like that. The hero of the story needs to do that, regardless of whoever it is. Yes, that's just what the fuck that story needs, you know what I'm saying? So you could even say toxic femininity would be not being. Confrontational with toxic masculinity. Yeah. Okay. Come on now. Yeah, that's an example of both. I mean, everyone exhibits these traits. Everyone has masculine and feminine traits. Yes. Whether you're a boy or a girl. But yeah, when we when we're talking about toxic masculinity, I want to just, like, point more arrows towards what that is. Definitely. I think tyranny, control, controlling a sense of, like, neurotic control. I think like, propagating propagandistic techniques to, like, create the environment that you want through a method of control because you want to dominate the competent dominance hierarchy. But like tilting the axis is that you exist on so that you garner all of the competence and the control and the dominance. Yeah. Trying to fix the game. Rig the game. Yeah. Monopolize the system. Exactly, exactly. That's toxic masculinity. It's like conquering. Yeah. Like anxiety taking taking over territory. He kind of walks that line. But then like a lot of stuff he says I don't think he comes across as toxic. He's like tells you to work hard. Yeah. No. Yeah. It tells you like, nobody fucking cares when men don't fucking care, bro. They want a winner. It's like you want to be a winner. That means you have a fucking sleepless nights. You got to do crazy shit. Yeah. Go hard. Yeah. So, so. But then, like, there's this kind of more pissy, soft snowflake culture that just, like, hates him on, like, presupposition alone. They hate Jordan Peterson, too. I'm like, what are you talking about? Oh, yeah. That that one. Get to me. Yeah. Oh, you hating that guy? That's my dog. That's my diggity. Hey. Hey, Stamper. I'm saying that he didn't believe in. That was. I'm just. He didn't believe in it. He said, like, having pronouns that aren't he. She is just, like, untrue. Like, you can just do whatever you want with language. It's like there's actually presidencies where it's really dangerous to do whatever you want with language like, this can't be legislation. It's like your government. Your job is to like do these kind of things. But then, like catering to this movement right here is not what you're supposed to do. It's like, that's not your job. That's a lot. Yeah. That's crazy. We're getting deep in that point. Yeah, well we can back off of that. But that's why that culture hates that. That's their presupposition for hating Jordan Peterson. Which is stupid because he's like one of the most, I don't know, positive masculine teaching people and current culture right now. Absolutely. Absolutely. They ever. Oh yeah. All ages cross cross-cultural cross-generational. Yeah. He's influence and inspiring rebellion. To pick up the book and read it. You know what I'm saying. Tell me that you hate what he said as well. He's about. He's just going. Oh pick up the fucking book and read it. It's like just watch him go off of the. Bible. For 12 hours, bro. Just borderline my toxic masculinity right there. It's going nuts with it, man. But, so shout out Fathers Day for the love you guys. Give your dad shout out dads, my dog over here is a first time Father's Day dad right here. Let's go. Number one. I haven't put in a full year yet, so it feels a little. Unfair. You've done well. Yeah. Another six months. It's been six and change. Seven months? Yeah. She's about to be eight months old. Yeah. Let's go. All right, so as of today. They are 16 years ago. Yeah. Boom. Let's go. Nice day. Yeah I feel bad. There's those dads that have been doing this for 40 years. 30 years, 20 years now. The I qualify they definitely. Yeah I think those those dads are like welcome in man. Here's a here's a brew. Yeah yeah for sure. Yeah it's cool. Absolutely I really just I really just serve my dad on Father's Day. Got my sister, got my baby. Drove up to go see my dad to give him a good Father's Day. I just be a servant. And his little grandbaby. What I was thinking, my mind was like. Yeah, granddad, he's on Granddad Day now. We had that session over there for sure. Doodoo doodoo doodoo doodoo. Yeah that's cool, that's good. That's tight. That's the first granddad day right. Yeah yeah yeah. My baby's in a weird phase where she doesn't want to hang out with anybody but me, so I feel kind of bad. Oh, man. Yeah, I think that's pretty natural. Okay, so I'm like, these people love you, too. I see you all the time, baby. Just hang that. She's like. One. Oh, man. Yeah, sometimes she. Sometimes she's crying. And sometimes she's like, crying, like, okay. She's like heartbroken. Oh no. Like she's like her eyes well up. And she's like, why? And then she like, cries like real tears. Like big tears flow down her face. It's not like a baby. Like when I'm hungry, I just shit myself. She's like. Heartbroken. Baby, if you betrayed me, betrayed me. Father, I love to you. Yeah. That level of depth of emotion, she's like, I don't feel safe here. Yeah, yeah, it's nil with I'm uncertain. You're my only beacon of consistency. Yeah, exactly. The only thing I know. Yeah, but I'm just, like. Eight month old. Baby. Yeah. You just get. Sometimes I got to do stuff that she doesn't understand. Well, yeah. Fuck yeah. It's going to happen. That's going to be the case for a long time. That's definitely one of the things that I've like predicated since she's like 30. That's a dangerous thing, you know, because I think people will say to themselves like, oh, I just got to do stuff that they don't understand. But it's like, well, what? Like there's a line there somewhere, you know? But like when I have to give her shots, she's not gonna understand that. That's gay. She's gonna hate it. I gotta clean her nose out. She says, understand that she hates it. It's like, okay, I'm going to give you to your grandma now. I'm going to, like, walk away for a little bit. You're not going to stay in that. But, like, I need you to be okay with that, you know? Yeah. But I think there's other times where you get, like, tyrannical figures that are doing things that, like you say, politicians even you say Anthony Fauci. It's like they don't understand it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I see what you're saying. As far as yeah, yeah, yeah, that's definitely a mindset Reagan regards to like the politician political government controlled like even like your family household. Yeah. Regards to the children. Like how? Like the people are the children and like the people in charge, quote unquote, are the adults are the government officials are the president are the kings are the dads. Moms the ones who call the shots? Yeah. It's like it's definitely what's going on. Or like it's a very you can see the mirror, you know, you can see the mirror because there's definitely is like a, like Santa Claus fucking tooth fairy aspect to childhood and like the ability to abstract maybe. And also to try and teach and enforce rules and to because they're not going to understand the rules, are going to understand the things that I'm trying to enforce on them or like, yeah, even like when they're that young, she's able to recognize, like, I know you. Where are you going? What the. Fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck were you going? Yeah. Even at that young. Yeah. We're able to determine or, like, ingest information and, like, make sense of it in our mind and like, like at some level, think of what's going on here. Yeah. It's like, I think this is happening based on what I'm interpreting here. And like, we cling on to that thing. We're like, no, this is what's happening. What the fuck? Where you going? And then but like, so from a child perspective, they don't really have literally the brains developed quite yet. And they don't have experienced enough life to really know, have like have wisdom even like, I don't even know when you get wisdom officially, you know, like like a wise person. Yeah. There's no there's no end to it. You're always learning. You know, sometimes wisdom skips. Sometimes you never get ears or some people never get it. Oh, as I say, sometimes young people gain wisdom that they shouldn't have. Some people get old. They don't have wisdom that it's like. Well, how do you make it through without it? Yeah. Times shit. But yeah, that all that say it. But yeah, there are some things that you're going to have to do that the kids don't know about. Totally. I don't understand fully. Yeah. And that is like the nature of the beast I think to a degree for sure. But then, yeah, it might get the water to get a little muddy when you're talking about the people who are in control. But now they're not mom and dad, now they're the fucking king, right. And his court and they're they're going to determine how you live life and how your parents deal with work and how you're whatever your neighbors treat their fucking milkman and all that shit. Yeah. Taxes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just do. This. Fuck them, fuck them. They don't need to know about this. Oh, how much of those conversations are happening? A lot, dude. That's why I like conspiracy theories exist, quote unquote. A lot of them are true. Because. Yeah, because of that. Simple truth that we just touched on, which is like you're going to there is a parental relationship as far as what's going on with the people in control and and who's being controlled, what that even means. Like who should be in control? Like what? You're steering the fucking ship. You're steering the ship that we're all on. You're fucking Moses. You're not, you know, you're, I guess, like you're the king. You're the whatever. The one who determines reality or the one who's judgment determines what actions we take or don't take. And then those actions and inactions will result in the reality we're living in. So if you're the one who's in control of that, like you kind of he, how much do you tell your kids? I don't know, I think the people. Who are in control, you need to be as honest as you need to be, as you can. Be, as you can be. Yeah. Because there's, is there a instances where telling kids the truth is like, not the right thing to do. Like Santa Claus? That's definitely a thing for sure. Yeah, for sure. But like. Stories, fairy tales. I don't think so. I think that's just like you're doing it. You're doing it for you. You're not doing it for them. Yeah. I think well, maybe also, at the very least, there's never really an instance where you should be like just straight up lying and maintaining a lie to your kids for a long time. Yeah. Forever and maybe at young ages. Yeah. But, like, I think maybe that eventually gets to the point to where you're saying, like, well, we'll talk about this when you get older, whenever you can, like, understand when you're like 25, like, you know, whenever we're whenever you're to the point to where you can, like, bear the load of this, you know, this heavy bar right here, kid. I got bars on your dog. Losing a ball. 315 on your back. Yeah, like you got to build up to that. I think a little. I mean, can you can you put it into kindergartners perception? You know, like I lost my job. Well, I tell your kid that. You know what I'm saying? I got fired, I got laid off because the economy's not great, and we're downsizing. How to explain that to a kid? Yeah, right. But, like, they literally don't understand it. Right? But I think you could. You could try to break it down. Yeah. And you should not tell a lie. Yeah. That's like but if your kids walk in on you and mom having some. National Geographic shit, your bedroom. Playground time, like you're probably not going to just, like, explain that out, right? It's like, wow. Yeah. No no no no no no for sure. So like this is a conversation we need to have. No. The whole day to day. Yeah. Yeah. But I think, like, as honest as you can be, right? It's like I can't tell you about that. Like you're not ready. You know what I'm saying? That's right. At times. And that goes on for sure. I don't know the blatant lie, though. Yeah, that's fucked up. You know, it's a little off. It's a little off, I don't know. We'll see how life plays out. Oh, I just know it to be true. You just shouldn't lie. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not going to lie to Demi. I'm not like, I'll definitely be careful with her innocence, you know what I'm saying? I'm not trying to, like, throw shit on her. She doesn't need to have. But if she asked me about something, it's like, that's also part of, like, what I think a good parent brings to the table is you can help your children, like, grow up and like, understand things and be smart, like their life is entangled into your life. So what you go through is what they're going through. And that's like, in my opinion, that's the God's plan for their life. So they're supposed to learn some shit that I'm going through so that they can like, experience, you know, like my dad did get laid off when I was like ten ish and, like, I remember that, you know, and then, like, my parents got divorced and, like, learned about that. That's also learned about, like, all the shit in between, you know what I'm saying? Not just the shitty stuff. Yeah. Like. You know, working hard or whatever other kind of values you're trying to instill. Like, whatever you're doing. I'm trying to think about. Like, I don't know, like even just my dad getting a new car. It's like explaining like, oh, I got a new job. So I have, like, more money than I used to have. And I always wanted this car. So, like, before, I used to drive cars that I didn't necessarily want to drive or I like them, but like, this is the car I was wanted. So now I'm like, this is why I got this car like this explaining stuff to me, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I think that that's important to your kids. I don't think you should just be like, don't ask questions. Get in the fucking car. No. Not at all, dawg. No, not at all, bro. Yeah, I think I said I was thinking about. Okay, so that's something that should parents see? That's what I'm talking about. The transparency is important. Yeah. Sorry. I don't mean to cut you off. Know, like the. Most beautiful. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's kind of what we were hinting at or hinting towards. Fully transparent and but not always kind of over revealing. So I guess. Yeah. Is that how the government should treat us as well? Right, right. Oh come on, we can fucking take it to like what, the aliens dog. Yeah, I. Think we can't take I can take. That shit. That's like the highest level of. Because I'm just going through life anyway. What the fuck are we going to do? And unless this information is going to be like, all right, there are aliens. And because of this, we need to take precautions a through G, it's like, oh, fuck. Okay, so now my life is literally different now. And I have to like, do these fucking things we're trying to do here. Life is completely changed or our aim or trajectory of what we thought was normal day to day activity. No more day to day normal shit. We got aliens at the forefront. So maybe I think that's an option, but I think I can just take it. I think I think we'll be fine. I'm not sure because it's happening. If it is going on right now, if there are aliens, hypothetically, I don't know. Yes or no, never really seen them. If it's going on, it's going on right now. I just think it's been going on. Yeah. And like, life's been going on the whole time since then, since the 60s. Since 040. We've been going on. We've been moving. We'll be okay. Unless the aliens specifically were like, unless I. Yeah. Unless it's something else. Do not fucking tell them that we're here. Like, we will nuke you if you tell them that we're here, not spread that shit on mass. Like if they said that, I guess I would get it. You know what I'm saying? Yes. Otherwise, like, they would have told Joe Rogan right now. He would have told us, I'm sure if anybody would know, he would know. And if you would know, I would know. But I don't think there's any I don't think there's any justification for a lack of transparency. Yes. I don't think you could really bring one that is truly justified. I think it's selfish. It's, it's motivated by a spirit of control and you don't and it's just like leadership and control and two different things. So like this I don't think that's like what is, what's the thing about in the family aspect. It's like you need control right. The control would be like we're doing what I plan to do with relative respect to everybody else's ongoing life. It's like I planned on picking the kids up, taking them soccer practice, stopping at Chili's on the way home, and then stopping in Barnes and Noble and my home from Chili's, and then getting home and getting the kids in bed by 11. It's like, that was a plan. It's a good plan. Checks all the boxes. It's like, I think control would be like, do we act in a way where we execute the plan? It's like, I don't really need to be like, do putting your shoes on and like pushing you out the door. But like, if we're running ten minutes late, I gotta be like, hey. My friend, the plan, let's go. Could go, you know, say, we gotta get out the door, we gotta get to the door. Let's go. Like, what do you need? Let me help you. I think that that's like, positive control, I guess. Like maintaining the situation. Let's say, like, something really bad happens, right? Like, someone breaks their leg on a soccer practice, so it's like, control would be, like, not panicking, but getting them. Okay, let's go to the hospital, run to the hospital. What needs to be done and execute needs to be done. Don't be panicked or overwhelmed emotionally with the situation or the reality of a broken leg, or the disgusting nature of it. Or like the squeamish, whatever. Yeah, the blood, the bone sticking out. Right? Okay, I need to say control here. Exactly. Or like emotion is going to control me. Yes, 100%. It's like you're in panic mode or. No. No, I couldn't agree more. Yeah, that's right. I think the other example that comes to my mind is like the last finals game, game four, when the Pacers were like kind of winning, but then Shai like took control. Yeah you know what I'm saying. He was like, okay, hold on I know what to do here. I know what's going on here. We're not playing well. So you run over me and I'm going to like, elevate us into the lead. It's like, just follow my lead. Basically. I think it's kind of what he like said. And then he started executing what he thought was best. And then they ended up winning. And then that's like, that's right on the line. It's like he luckily he was right. And all of his teammates agreed in post. Oh, he was right. I'm happy to it. Follow his followed his lead. I think it's easy to say like, okay, things aren't going the way I want them to go. So I'm going to take control here. And y'all are all going to follow my lead. It's like, is everybody going to agree to that? You know what I'm saying? Is everybody going to say like, oh yeah, I'm happy that they did that. Because if not, then I don't think you should. That's like the not good side of control, you know. Yeah. Yeah. And being a tyrant is it fall prey to that. Yeah. Like Kobe Bryant power right on the line sometimes. Right. But you have the right though I think if they have a track record of like consistently doing the thing right with like when they take control the thing gets done. You know, it's like people in companies, it's like when this guy's is on the lead on the project. The project comes in on time and it looks good. When this person's a lead on the project, it's a little bit late and it's a little bit choppy, right? Or whatever. Whoever's leading the presentation, whoever's doing the fucking whoever is taking control, right? Do they do the thing? Do they have a track record of doing the thing? Competence. I think people will lie about the track record. Oh fuck yeah, dawg, I'm lying about that shit all day. Not you, not me. But yeah. Average Joe on a resume. All day with it, dawg. Goodness, I was there for four years. I was the go to guy. Fucking loved. Me. They the so sad about that. They're a shambles without that. I remember. Thinking about that in regards to doing interviews with. People. I was like, oh, this is a fucking lie to me right now. I say, tell me about your work experience. That was your last job. What would they say about you? Yeah, like we know people that you think what we saw of them at work, they went and told their next employer they were like that. Like absolutely not. Oh, God. No. I'm a real people person. Oh, yeah, a friend Connor this is know like asking them like, why did. You, it's like you're currently employed. Not employed. Like. Oh, yeah. Like I'm still currently employed or either way, not it. So. Okay. Like, why are you why did you leave or why are you looking to leave this place you currently are? You know, your current, you have a current story going on. You have a wake up, do this, wake up, do this thing. Schedule for your life right now to combat the ever present danger of hunger to death. And you know, you know, we all gotta deal with that shit. So why are you why are you looking to change that right now? I know it's bullshit. 90% of the answer is bullshit. The other 30%. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm looking. I'm just, trying to maybe get into a different career field. Or maybe I'm trying get back into serving. Or maybe I'm in a transitionary period with school right now. Or maybe I want to. I wasn't really getting along with my coworkers on my previous employment or my management, and I really butted heads on a particular issue. 90% of that shit is bullshit. It's like, at least I think. So much of the time. What do you think it really is? They got fired. They fucking no call, no too many times. Are they fucking? That's probably it. Are they still like it? Yeah. They making money. Yeah. That's another potential issue. Yeah I feel you I think people definitely they definitely play up what their, what their role was, what they were good at, how much value they added to the mix. And there's some people that they, you see you just watch them play it bro. You're like, oh this guy's a killer. Like whatever Julian says at his interviews, I doubt he lies. But, you know. Yeah. Actually competent, you know what I'm saying? That's the thing. I take control, the thing gets done. So I don't really worry about what the fuck the thing is, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So. But but yes, it's a slippery slope, I think I who was it? I want to say it was Jay Shetty. It was years ago though. But he was just talking about, I don't even know why they were talking about it, but a statistic came up in regards to people, resume like, accuracy. And, I'm not sure how the study was conducted, but I guess apparently as a, as Jay Shetty study conducted, there was like, I want to say it was like 60 plus percent, resumes were like, exaggerate it or people self admittedly said that like, they like weren't 100% truthful on the resume. Like to the to the IMT. Right. So that's just like the natural inclination. More than half of these motherfuckers. And like, I'm sure that's gonna be reflected. They got to have like that lie backed up for the like, here's the resume. And then I got to have the interview to, like, support the resume. So, like, I got to, like, memorize those. Lies pretty much and play them up a little bit. It's like, oh, some rough reality. We're all living in here. I get the temptation, of course, makes it obvious, obviously makes sense. Like, why doesn't everyone do that? Like, why isn't everyone just like, you know, trying to bolster up their competence? Because then whenever it's the fourth fucking quarter and we give you the ball and you miss for the eighth time. I'm gonna get a little upset. We're gonna get a little upset with you. Eventually. Right? Goddamn. You're not going to get the ball anymore. You might not be on the team anymore. Yeah, you. Might have to find a new profession, a new career field in general. Go play fucking field hockey or something. Go shot. Put some throw. Javelin. No, not a quarterback guy did not. You know on this team I go to the team. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the consequences of why I guess. Why not lie. It's like well. Eventually. If you if the the lie is kind of like a fucking house of cards, it's like if you, it's just a, it looks nice and then, but it's like not solid. It's not solid rock. It's not a foundation if you put weight on it, if you bear a load, it's going to collapse. It's like, yeah, I'm not really I'm really good at X, Y and Z. I'm the fucking y. I take control, we get the shit done, I can take for table section, no problem. I can take a 15 top by myself, no problem. And then we give you a 12 top by yourself and then. You fucking shit the bed. It's like, oh no. Oh no. But there's real negative, negative. Consequences to lying, I guess, bolstering up the story of your interview and shit. Yeah. There's something to it. Like life. Life wants to prove you right. So if you tell the truth, that's great, because it's going to prove you right. So. But if you lied and wants to prove it right, and it gives you the opportunity to prove you right, then you like crumble. It's like, fuck. You know what I'm saying? It's like there's something about there's an there's an exterior force pressing on your narrative. Yeah. And like itself. Yeah. If you tell the truth, then I feel like life is, like working with you. But if you tell lies, life is working against you. It's like, do you want to have that going on all the time? It's like a lot of pressure to be getting manned up for court defense by life. Whereas it could be your post, man, that's shack, you know what I'm saying. Yeah yeah. Shaq in his prime. Yeah. It's a different like relationship you have with life at that point. I think that's the thing that makes being honest the most valuable or the most valuable part of being honest in my opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just the swing of like the way you walk instead of walking, afraid that you're gonna get called out all the time. It's like life works with you because you were honest. You tell someone like, I want to be at the point where I can take a 15 top by myself, like I'm a hard worker. I have a lot of effort. I really focus, and I learn fast. It's like, okay, cool. Like, we can work with that. We can get you there. Coach. You're right. Versus if you just say you can do it when you can't do it, it's like, no, that's two different people that have to, like, go forward in their own life. Now you're like, oh, God, if they give me a 15 time, I'm fucked. I'm fucked. Whereas like, if they're like, I told you I couldn't do that. I told you, I'm willing to learn, but you gotta teach me. And I'm. Saying, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like vindicated. Justified. Now it's on leadership and it's not on you versus like, it's on you, not on leadership. If you said you could do it. Yes. And I guess all that when we just talk about control. Right. I want to take control. Yeah. What is, what is being transparent. Control. What does a controlling person look like. What is it like to take control. Toxic masculinity. Yeah. Too much control. Yeah. That can be dangerous. Power. Yeah. Dangerous. Yeah I know yeah. Well, one thing I was, remembering mentioning or that I forget what exactly who mentioned, but it popped in my mind. I think I think I was talking about, like, your dad or Father's Day, your dad being the first grandfather's day. And then you're talking about being transparent with Demi, like, growing up later on. And, that just reminded me of it was it was an older sermon, older church service, a couple of weeks ago, but it was the one where it was not Pastor Ed. It was three different people. It was Mon, the other two guys. And, the middle guy was talking about, like being, like, like family lineage, like planting trees and sitting under shades, sitting under the shade of trees that you did not plant. And like planting gardens, you're not going to get to see like, legacy type vibes. And then that was just like, that combination with what you're just talking about reminded me of a conversation that we had, I mean, my wife was talking about, I guess, like grandfathers and like grandparents and just like the idea of communication, like communicating with your kids and grandkids and like, your family, it was just like, I don't know, I'm just thinking about that. What what his sentiment was as far as, like a dynasty lineage, things getting passed down, generation to generation Y Joshua left out the 12 stones in the Jordan River type shit like so we remember we fucking got part of the way for us and like, we did that shit. And like, all of that was just in this conversation. I was telling her like, man, it was it's really important. That just gave me the I felt the gravity and depth of the importance of talking to your kids and like having communication with your family, especially your kids, your kids in your parents, your mom and your dad, and then your however many kids you have, all of them like that is an important line. And then also to have the grandkids like you talk to your grandkids, like whenever Demi has kids, like talk to them like it's going to be super important because I was just thinking about that, that particular ancestral line of like direct, direct ancestral line, like your people who brought you into this world and the people you brought into this world and who they brought into this world, like that connection of communication and relationship is like what we are built on. And like if we don't take care of that, if we don't cherish that, like our story that we are living is not going to be maybe like true per se, or maybe like even to the full, fullest flourishing that it could be if like because like for example, like I don't really have like my grandpa already passed away and then like my dad passed away. So I only have like a direct ancestral line backwards for like my masculine family. You know, I'm saying like like where like how are how did they interpret life itself? Like, what did they think about God? Like, have they ever been what you like belief in what's happening here? What is this? What is this thing that's happening right now? How do you cope with that? Like we all are needing a place to sleep. Like we all need to sleep. We all need eat and drink water. Like those are just three ever present pressing like pressure points that are on all of us all the time. Like, how do you deal with that? Like what's going on? Like, what do you think about those things when you think about like, God, how do you manifest or whatever? And now I have more articulation because like when you're a kid, you can't you can have a relationship where you can't be that depth and that Johnny Depp in this bitch at all, you know, saying like, it's going to be. So I was just thinking about the importance of how crazy it is to talk to your grandparents and talk to your kids about those types of things, particularly like your relationship with God and like what brought you here, your faith walk, how you interpret the matrix of reality, how you should interface with it. Yeah. And yeah, just try to like fucking build up that build up. That fucking DNA is where the idea for that show comes from, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. The Descendants, because like, you go from, like your great great great grandfather and like, all that shit, just like the the downward flow of all that information and experience and stress as, like stress and struggle and pain and joy and love and laughter and success and failure. It's like all that shit's important and influential to your interpretation of fucking how to play game, how to play life. Yeah. I was like, man, that's crazy. You got lucky growing up, Father's Day, man. My dad would. Like, there's always just me and my dad living together, and he would, like, conduct business, like, was a pastor of a church. It's like a lot of phone calls, a lot of stuff, a lot of meetings. But, like, he would just let me stay in the room or let me stay in the car and just, like, leave the phone on, like the car phone, but you just be like, you can't tell anybody about the stuff that I do for work, but like, I'll let you be like a fly on the wall for all the things that I do for work so that you can learn from me. Like just we have to have like a covenant almost that you won't, like, betray that trust. Yeah. And I. Was like, okay. Just like shout out on a call when he's not you, right? But you know, it's bullshit. Yeah, yeah. How old. Were you? Like ten. Yeah. Like, Yeah, like 10 to 20, basically. That's cool. Yeah. It was, it was cool. I learned a lot. Like, I learned like, a lot. And I felt like, that I was lucky. Like, some dads could have been, like, office closed the door. I keep the door closed. Yeah, yeah. Separate completely separate those parts of life. Yeah. Right. But it was I one hand easier for my dad to just, like, have me there because then he could, like, watch me and. Work and already there. Yeah. Right. But then that was also cool for me because I was I was learning a lot, you know, like people. What this communication. Yeah. Like what people's problems and like. Yeah I guess communication is a lot of it. Like how people talked about their problems. Yeah. Then how to talk people to people about their problems and then like when that phone call hangs up to like, hear the actual feelings about my dad. But yeah, like the behind the scenes of the director's cut. Yeah. He's like, oh my God, that was a battle. That was right. That was a rough. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So I feel like I learned like a whole lot. And plus it would be like, okay, we're going to do a sermon about this because I'm trying to communicate this. I'm trying to communicate this. And then you're like, go watch the sermon. And then afterwards be like, yeah, I didn't do this part right. Or like, I did this part really well, but I want to do this part better. So like getting to see all the film all the time. I was like, just felt like I was learning a lot. And I feel like that transparency was like, good for me, you know? Whereas I could have just been like, oh, play with it, iPad or something, you know what I'm saying? Like, I mean, I was I was playing Call of Duty all the time. I don't want to. I think it was it. But but yeah, I think maybe that's why the idea of transparency for me is like, you can this you should be able develop a relationship where transparency isn't abused. It's like that. That's I think sometimes the leader is too afraid of the transparency, being abused to make themselves vulnerable enough for the abuse. And I think we do that probably a lot. A lot of people do that in a lot of relationships. I say that again. Or how how so? Like, Even abusing the transparency. Yeah. Well, even just relationships like to tell someone how you really feel makes you vulnerable. And then the person can, like, abuse that, trust that you, like, extended by being vulnerable. They can just go tell someone else, like, this guy's a. Pussy or. Like, they can, like, use that against you later to manipulate you to get what they want. Or when they're angry or upset with you, they can, like, press that button that they that you exposed. To, as you're saying. But like, I think in an, in transparency wise, like to say, like, here's why I'm doing this process. It's because x, y, z, I don't really want this to happen. So I don't really want to like go into too much detail about this part of the plan because I think people are gonna get riled up. So like, let's focus on these points over here. And then like the person that heard that could say, okay, and then walk out the door and then go expose the exact parts that he told them, like not to expose and like. Keep this on the DL. Yeah. Like, I like tweet that out. Right, sweetie? Right now. Yeah, exactly. I think some people like, it's just that's just that's why. Okay. That's why it's. Oh, this is where I was going to go, but I'll give them some poignant. I want to hear that. No, I think or it's like the abuse of the transparency leading to what you're going to say. Well, that's that's why I think it's so important, too. It's like, how do you negate that from happening? Oh, it's like this fear would make me call up and take more control and be a little more toxic with my control. It's like you got to be. First of all, that's why being honest is so important, but also like, push for that godly way of being, for that positive masculinity. Like vulnerability is strength. It's like I understand the temptation to not be vulnerable. So even though I get burned, I'm still going to try to be transparent and vulnerable and loving and forgiving because that's that's a better way to do it. Even when I do get burned, that's a better way to do it. Because, yeah, it's not a flaw with the thinking or the methodology. It's more just like people suck. Yeah, exactly. It's like, that motherfucker just sucks. But like, this is being fully transparent and is better even if you're burned. Yes, yes. And you should keep pushing for that. God, that is a flaw in it, I guess. Right, is it's kind of pointing to. But it's just like a is better than not. 100%. Yeah. It's like forgiveness can be abused, but does that mean it's just not forgiving. Yeah, yeah. No. I want to be forgiven too. I don't want to turn into a coil up into a little centipede. Like, oh, closed off now and then this person closes off and we're all closed off. It's like the leader true leadership is saying, no, that's not right. Even if I have to take get burnt so that we can strive towards the ideal, that's better for everybody. Like, burn me, burn me first. Like I'm the leader. I'm the one that's in control. So I should take the burning and then let's, like, continue to strive towards the ideal. But I think that some people in leadership or the inner control want to maintain the power, the control so bad that they do veer away from the ideal, or they have a different ideal that's less objectively good. Yeah, especially if it means that they if their version or their alternate alternative option to the ideal is results in more control or maintaining at least maintaining the same level of control, then when they try to go that way, right, it's like, oh, that's fucked up bro. Fucked up. That's not right. That's toxic masculinity. Yeah, yeah. It's not going to end well either. Does like, read the Bible directly? Yes. Is fucking going to burn you dog. Yeah. Old Testament are you fucking playing bro? No the fucking playing bro. Yeah. All that's we don't play no dog. This didn't play. Either. No bro. You just got a right to do that. I'll think about that yesterday like a Old Testament and fucking playing. But like the New Testament is definitely different. Is more grace and love and forgiveness and repentance based. But the ending revelations, it's like, oh, there's Old Testament God again. There he comes. Oh, it's got it's coming, boy, that's deep. He's like a fucking playing dog. Yeah. Like people's people are getting killed for just like, fucking up, like quote unquote accidentally. Like just lose your sons like that. Yeah, that's Old Testament for Earth. Let's eat them up. Literally. This is like fucking the ground. The ground splits and it's like. And they're gone. It's like, yo, you gotta be careful. I think that was the guy. And well, get that. Jesus. That's the thing is, like, God had to get to Jesus. I think whenever Jesus is trying to explain, like the ways in which my father works might not always make sense to you, it's like he's like, yeah. Yeah, hang on. He had to get to me, dog. Like, no matter what, this had to happen. So it's like the no matter what was kind of dependent on you guys. It's like you guys didn't do a good enough job evangelizing. Well, a lot of people died because of that. So you guys wanted to live in sin? Well, a lot of you got to die for that because, like, we got to get to me, and then I'm going to create the pathway to heaven. And that has to happen no matter what. Yeah. And then now that that's happened, there's a little more grace for everybody until we're ready to go to heaven. And then it's like, no matter what the true. The truly evangelize people will will go to heaven. And it's going to be pretty wild because there's a spiritual war going on here. It was a war going on, dog, and there's yeah, because we're in the war we're talking about is a sub substructure underneath everything that we talk about. Oh yeah. Up here, you know what I'm saying. And right now we were just talking about fatherhood, masculinity, toxic masculinity, taking control, too much control, transparency, the fear of transparency so you could lose your control. But it's like, ultimately not going to end well for you because there's a fucking war going on. And that's just like the wrong axiom to build your house on. Yeah, it's like I'm going to maintain control. I want to be the one in charge. I want to be the one who's calling the shots. I think that those people are kind of crazy. Like, who wants to be the president, really? Or who wants to be the king? Game of Thrones has a good illusionist of this. There's two people, says the psychopath, and then Bran. Yeah, or fucking Johnson out there. It is. Yeah. Because, like, I guess Bran truly doesn't want to. He has no desire. No desire to. Rise, no desire. He doesn't even. Exist. You're right. You're right. Bran is dead. It's Jon so. And it's fucking just. Knowing, like fucking Joffrey or, who's like. Seriously or seriously was the one I was just think of, she's like, covets the control. Or as Jon Snow covets virtue. Yeah. And she's a prime example season one of manipulate the narrative at any cost to maintain control. Yes. That's what the show is based on. To a degree, yes. It's like Joffrey is not the king. It's like, I know that and I don't give a fuck. Like this little piece of paper. These will fuck. Fuck your paper dog like I got the I got the soldiers with me. Oh, and now that doesn't end well for you, Brad. It's not. Going to end. Well. And when I watch Game of Thrones and then person X watches Game of Thrones, and then we're both like, you're like, I was friends. I'm like, I love Game of Thrones, man. It's a good show. It's one of the best. It's like those mean different things. Yeah. Okay. We're not saying the same exact thing. Okay? Like the idea of Jon Snow gets me fucking raw car, dude. Whoa. Right past the jump, Jeff. Back dive to chug for six bucks. But, like, okay, what? I say whatever you want to say. That is like the idea of someone who. The hero, he's like the true hero. Yeah, like he's doing it because it's the right thing to do. Yes, he's doing it because the alternative is death. He's doing it because there's true tyranny. That's fucking people. And true evil. That is on its way. If we don't add it to evil, that's on its way and we'll put us out. It'll end us. We will lose everything. We will lose existence itself if we don't band together and say, fuck all these divisive lines that we got going on. Oh, Spooky vibes. Yes. Fuck the divisive. Lines. Though, you know. But it was fucking great. Great show. But yeah, I guess because we were talking about people who want control. Yeah, it's the people who want to manipulate the narrative and have the fucking power. Who wants to be able to hold on to the thing and say what happens? I guess ultimately what it's like you protect themselves to a degree and like to never face any negative consequence. It's partially probably what. Because Aids in that the rich king is way better than being the fucking shot merchant villager. Yeah, subject to getting robbed and subject to getting fucked and to have your kids, like, starve. Sure. It's like, yeah, you want to have the control so you don't have to ever worry about those negative consequences, right? Partially. At least that at least that self-preservation mechanism. And then you want to fucking exercise control and fucking be afraid. What's what's the well, like I say this or what's the word for someone who gets like pleasure from someone else's. Pain, sadist. Sadist. Yeah, like sadistic kind of fucking proclivities. It's like, yo, that's fucking evil. That's fucked up. That's fucked up. But then I think. That Johnson was like, opposite of that. Right? So when I say, like you Thrones, I'm saying like the idea of Jon Snow is so nice to see personified, and to watch someone that, like, pulls those ideals out of you and, and personifies them on screen. Whereas like other people, I think they're like, oh yeah, like being the kingdom that wins the war. I want to ride dragons. Yeah, that too. But I think Game of Thrones on some of those, like politics. Yeah. Like, on base level, it's like house mullet will rise to the Iron Throne and we're going to play the game. The game leads the war until the North, bro. At least something. Give me something. Right, right. And I'm just like, no, that's not that's not what I'm talking about when I say it like that show and then put but then the the services like it's, it's not a successor. Show but the 300. Yeah. But the Cersei what's her theory. Yeah. Yeah. The services of the world will take what you say and manipulate it to mean what they want it to means that they can cast into a negative light. So that way they can. Like. Exclaim their own virtue over yours to make you look like, oh, this person is, like, not, aligned with something that we would want our leadership to be aligned with. That's like, what are you talking about? Like Game of Thrones? First of all. Like, I think we need. The same things going on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. The those people are fucking crazy. So I guess so those are the kind of people who are going to be trying to run for this leadership type shit, like gravitate towards it. Or maybe I don't know, because, yeah, Jon Snow is like the fucking perfect example. He's the spoiler, but he's the fucking guy in the show. He's the one. He doesn't end up being the fucking ruler, but he's he's just the fucking one. He's the one. And I think Tyrion has a line of dialog about it in regards to like, I think he's talking to Jon directly and Jon's like, I don't want to be the fucking. It might be after he finds out that he's like, actually, literally the fucking one. Like the bloodline truest claim to the throne. Legitimate, like 100%. It should be. Him. It should be him. Like, that's that's what should be. It should be happening here. It's like in the natural succession of like fucking kingdom shit. So he's actually the fucking one. I think it might be after they find out that that's that's true. And then Tyrion and then Jon's like, I don't want it. Like I don't want it. I'd rather just not take it and like, let her do it. Let her do her thing. I'll be like, loyal to her, like her right hand man or whatever the fuck, but like, she she got it. I don't really want it. Then. Tyrion, Tyrion's like, I think the people who don't want it are the people who need to get it. Because like that, the fact that you don't want it is like, that's that's the most important thing. That's what qualifies you the most. So you need to take it. It's like something happened to him. That was an echo of what already happened to like a season earlier, whenever he was the Night's Watch, he didn't even, like, nominate himself. Sam was like, this is our fucking boy. He manned the wall. He killed the fucking. Then he's the fucking he's him dog. I want him. I'm a vote for him, not a vote for him to. And then he fucking wins. He didn't even like, want to win. Didn't even not want to run. Right. He's like fuck that. But now it's like, no, it's just like it's a true thing. Leadership will fucking call you bro. It's like Moses, like you're fucking him, bro. Sorry. Like you're it. You're the you're like the most meek person on the face of the earth. You're him. He's like, nah, then that's not me. Somebody else like Aaron Aaron to do it. He's like, no, not you. It's Aaron. Come along too. Yeah. He's like I that yeah. But I think that might be aiming or like those ideas are hinting towards something that's like a the people who actually are applying for the power and want to be the person. Yeah. What are your reasons man? Where is it coming from. Because I think it's a really come from a place of like, oh, I don't want it and like but it needs to be done. It's bigger than me. We need to have a fucking solid leader. Like it's this what needs to happen. Yeah, I agree with you. We need a hero. I need a hero. Yeah. Total Shrek two, bro. Fucking greatest sequel ever made that. Just don't follow up movies like they did with that one. They can't afford to do. That was a home run. I'm with you. But yeah, the positive that's that's a positive masculinity. Again, that's another trait which is just God. I just realized. God himself is this positive masculinity. He's he's a he. Like he is. Masculine. Like, this is what the fuck's going on here? It's beautiful. Bigger than that. I don't know if I can. Argue bigger than that even. Yeah, right. He is he beyond that. But at least. That. Yeah, that's well put. That's well put. Yeah dude the doing doing what needs to be done. Positive masculinity. Yes. Dangerous slope. Yeah. Because what you deem needs to go. Someone who determines what needs to be done. And what means are justifiable enough to get them done. And we live in tyranny, bro. Look at fucking Russia, bro. Look at North Korea, bro. That should be happening. I don't know shit about. Fuck social policies. Yeah, as far as like dictatorships are. What do you mean by that? Like just like the way leadership is running thing. Yeah. Tyranny does happen. Monkeys. Humans just do that shit, bro. Been doing it. Been doing it for real? Probably since the beginning of time, bro. So when Jesus came back here to fucking do. He came here because of that shit dog. Yes, that's. That's 80% tax rate. Insane. Dude, I was. The Old Testament God is crazy because the religion behind Old Testament God resulted in the culture that Jesus had to come shake down for him. Or like, yeah, Rican reconfigure. Yeah, that's crazy to think about. It's like Old Testament Bible is like valuable. I don't think you should throw it out. No, you can't, you can't. But it's like you have to read it as this was Egypt times to Jesus. But then this also caused, religion that Jesus had to come, like, completely upend. It's like, that's the perception of what's going on there when that's the context of the Bible that you're reading. You can't just go to Leviticus and be like, gay people not going to have like, what are you talking about? Literally, it's the are you even? Yeah. Are you really watching Game of Thrones? Yeah. That was I like god damn biggest diva. Yeah. So that's that's one, I realized that about the Old Testament when I was watching The Chosen. It was like, okay, like you shouldn't throw the Old Testament out, but like, the Old Testament was what needed to happen to get to Jesus. I'm gonna say it again. But creates a religion that ultimately was a tyranny. And that Jesus had and the other thing about Jesus that we're trying to be Christ like, it's like that dude was crucified. Okay. You want to be a leader? Okay. Are you trying to get crucified? Okay. Are you trying to be like the king? Oh, I have a golden crown. You have to carry me everywhere I go. Yeah. I never got to worry about my next meal. And I take shits in the golden toilet. Boy. Yeah? Is that what you're aiming for? Or like, if you. What? What are we basing? What's our axiom here? What's the axiom for the leadership that you exist on. And then the other grand scheme of things is all these things play out in the fucking field of battle or whatever you want to call it, The matrix. All these things play, all these stories play out over time. Yeah. And then your story might have a horrific ending. It's like likely to happen. It's either comedy or tragedy. Dog. One of the. Two, Cersei, had a horrific ending. Tragedy crushed in a basement. Yeah. Take that to mean literally whatever. Yeah. Whatever you want it to mean. Crushed. The only the one redeeming thing is that she was in Jamie's arms, but that was, I guess. No, no, that was more his redeeming thing. Yeah, that was it. That was the only good thing about his death, because they both died and then the bottom of that shit. But, yeah, all of our kids gone lost their power. Just fucking done. Yeah. I don't know if it meant as much to her as I meant to him. That's a weird fucking thing to be enjoying at the last moment anyways. Fucking weirdos. The. Yeah, the story's the truth. How does how does it play out? Yeah. And it goes on forever. We've been doing this thing for so long, thousands of years. Yeah. We've been living. It's fucking weird to think about it. It's funny how things mean. I was thinking about, like, if I'm like, yeah, like Drake. It's like, okay. What that means is different than, like, what? What it means to you might be different to what it means to me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Like you're a pedophile. It's like, no, no, no no. You support pedophilia. No no no no no no. I just think poetry is one of the best albums ever. I'm sorry, I certified lover boy. There you go. This is a great hip hop album. Yeah, yeah. Everyone has different associations. Yeah. We're all just agreeing on terms here. You know, we all are assuming that we're meeting the same thing when we say light or moon or sun, right? Like the big thing in the sky. That thing right there. Sun there. Like I agree, I'll call that sun as well. It's always good to be on the same page. Yeah, yeah. When I say sun, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I'll have to go through. And you try to we. We fucking we we, we did that. As a human. People's did that. They go out to. The fuck. Dude. Yeah it's it's it's so fucking. It's the complexities and the truth behind how we got here is so crazy. Well, I just saw the story. Yeah. You drive on a road. Or his dog? Yeah. That's like how that road get built. You got a phone, you got air conditioning, you got fucking plastic surgery. We got a. Crazy shit going on here. Dog. Sure. Yeah. Virtual reality. I mean, what, it's so easy to just get lost or to just forget, you know, or to just go forward. Only in, like, to not just like, wait a. Second. What the fuck? It was like, looked at your hands. You know what I'm saying? No, dude, I do it off. And now it's a bit like a running thing. I just look at my. Fucking hands, bro, and I'll just be. I'll just lose myself in the thought of like, Holy shit, look at that depth. Look at that detail. That's fucking insane, dude. Like there's such precision and such, like, little intimate. Just the smallest little things are going on here. Even the coloration is like, it's it's crazy. Well, you just lose that. And there's nothing about any of that type of shit ever. Yeah. It's so easy to so easy to. Yeah. But it's important, I think, to say, hold on. Wait, wait a second. What are we doing here? Yeah. What is here exactly? What are we doing? What's worth doing? Yeah, that's worth doing. I think there's some people that will be like, look at my hand. First of all, it's a great comedy bit. You have to look at your hands. Everyone just look at their hands sometimes. Get started. But like, some people will be like. It's so detailed and so intimately made, like, God's. Amazing, isn't he? Isn't he? Don't you just love God? God's great. Right. We're such great people. Just, We just love God. We're awesome. Okay, see you later. I'm like, I don't think that's Christianity, okay? Like, yeah, you just said, like, God's awesome. And then like. But you kind of just like, virtue signaled gratefulness and then and then wanted that to mean something and impact me like, oh, this person is really like a God loving person. It's like this devout, what are you doing. With that shit, bro? You know what I'm saying? What are you. Doing. With that? Like, who does that make you be? You know, who are you being? These are the questions I have for people. Yes, I. Definitely feel like that. That's one thing that I feel like Jesus probably get upset about that too. It's like you can't just virtue signal to God as like, this person that. What am I trying to say? What I'm trying to say, it's like to be a Christian is a heavy thing to say. It means you aim to be crucified for doing the right thing. It's like, I don't know if everybody's really doing that. And I think a lot of people will. Virtue signal. And I don't even know, like some people praying at a table before they eat right. It's like, are, are you just doing it to do it? Are you doing it because you think like, this is what we do as a family? We pray, but it's like, are you really trying to be Christians? Because I think I know Christians that don't always pray whenever they eat. They're still like, are devout Christians, you know, it gets like it just gets deep in that bitch. It gets. Super deep. Or it's like, maybe it's like the monkey see monkey do or do that because there's a couple layers here. It's like there's the doing it to be seen, which is like just wrong, I think. Or is like pretty, pretty off the mark, literally just doing things for the perception of being seen, doing them. Like you know, doing that type of shit with charity or prayer or. Yeah, or trying to virtue signal and trying to be seen doing something or be seen saying something or wearing something, whatever, to have an image or a idea associated with you that bolsters you up in the social realm. Yeah, that's definitely going on for sure. Yeah. But I think also there's another nuance that's like, there's just like maybe a childlike or childish or a, if not fully resolute picture that's developed or like that embodies the, like the behavior that we're doing here. Like in the same example of someone praying or like a family praying before meals, like the like when jazz, like when jazz prays with us, like, oh, sure, I know what's going on exactly. But she knows, like, this is what we do. And like, I'm like, I'm gonna go along with the tribe. You know, I'm saying, like. I like, I'm. I'm not the only one not praying. Like, but sure, sure. But it sounds like a maybe you just. But maybe you can feel it's the right thing to do. And hopefully you're around people who are doing the right thing, and then you're able to just like, piggyback on that and just like kind of figure it out over time in your own right. But there is maybe just like a maybe people don't even know what they're doing. We don't know what we're doing sometimes, even though we're doing it for sure. Like there's like a I guess it's like a childlike aspect to that. Sure. Or just uninformed. Maybe we don't know. We don't. We don't know exactly what we're doing consciously sometimes. Sure. And with that, I think more prayers are better than less prayers. Praying is better than not praying. Even if you're virtue signaling. I don't want to like shit on that. It's a good. Thing. Yeah, and with it. And other people around you too. Like if they can have a moment to be with God, or if there's another family on the fence of going to church, and they see that family praying and they're like, I want to be more like that. Even if you were just virtue signaling, maybe you're gonna help other people. So it's more prayers are better than less prayers always. But it's a it can be. It garners friction in me sometimes when I feel like, it's not like it if. Well, here's the other thing is, I wanted to say when the leader of that family or that prayer group or whatever isn't like striving to activate the ideals of being a Christian, but sometimes they don't even know they're just still in the children like state that jazz was in. But it's like, how do we even get people to be, like, activated for that shit? I don't know, you do a podcast about it and you talk about it a lot. It's like, oh my God. That's how I got to. Yeah, that's what I'm doing right now. Yeah. So yeah, so it's a 30. It's about I was thinking about that in regards to think about 38. It's like what comes to mind like God stuff and going hard music positive vibes. Positive vibes. Inspiration. But not like weird inspiration but like I believe in you. Inspiration. Like uplifting. Tones. Yeah, yeah. And I think that's just like, ultimately it also comes down, I guess part of what I'm even doing whenever I deviated away from the college path or like the, the corporate job path to pursue music, part of that underlying like desire for the pursuit of the music and the expression of that art form was coming from a place of I want to like, evangelize people. And not even I didn't even know about that. Like back then. Exactly. Or like had that formulated, but or more or less, I'm just trying to like, influence people to have a relationship with life. That's pretty much what I'm trying to do here and relationship with God. Like just open yourself up to that. Just be open to it. Because, like, I know what the fuck's going on in my life and like, I don't know what's going on, and I know that I don't know what's going on in any of your lives. Anybody you ever go to a fucking like every time I go to church, I'm trippin. Go to a mall, I'm trippin. It's like, look at all these fucking lives right here, bro. There's so many people and they all. Have stories and they all have, like, common things going on here. They all got to eat and they all got to drink and they're all going to die. And they all have like, love and pain going on in their life right now, and desire and hurt and sacrifice and it's beautiful and it's crazy, but it's overwhelming lot going on here. And we all got to deal with that. I forgot what I was going with, all. That one thing. I was tripping mushrooms, sad my car. Not like I'm going to drive kind of way. Just like let me be in a familiar place kind of way. I love it. And I'm just like in my apartment complex and like the wall on the outside of the apartment, like I'm looking at the apartment building and then the wall, the brick wall disintegrated. I think it was like, what? Maybe. But like. Okay, okay, I, I think I, I know you're talking. About like, you look at the apartment building and it goes up and it goes across and then like that wall kind of disintegrated. I just saw like, everybody living in their little holes. In their squares and their rectangles. Yeah. And I was just like, yo, those are all lives. Universes. This one building encapsulates all of these lives. So I'll just go to our little square at the end of the day. And then inside that square we have like our life is like home based out of there. Yep. It's fucking great. It's. I like. Oh my god. Like a lot to take in the lot. It's a. Lot. So I encourage you all to pursue a relationship with the thing that generates all of our lives here. That's all I'm saying. We call it whatever that, whatever you want, I pursued it, I found my way. I know what's going on here. I have a I talk to it life. God, Jesus whatever you want to call it. There's something going on here. I'm pretty sure it's Jesus as far as just like the thing that I found going on here, the life that I've been communicating with, I think that thing has been pointing me towards. Yeah, I life thing itself, generative creative force came here to fucking show you has done and then I'm I'm a deputy do that day that's how it's done. It's like oh that's okay I could I, I'm with it. But at. Least people at. Least. Pursue the relationship with life. Open yourself up to some winks. Look for the fucking reality. Meditate that. Just close your eyes sometimes and just fucking take a breath. Just take a fucking breath. Don't listen to everything you see on TV in the news. Oh fuck dude, if you're so much in the news. Stop yourself a favor. And just watch it just to know what they're talking about. And then do your own research. But just like, ultimately, just cut that shit off. They're the creator here. There's something going on behind all of these scenes, all this. We're all just humans. Going through the same thing. It's crazy. It's crazy. Just be able to try to connect to the thing that generates all of this art understanding. It's like you can understand things. How, how. How does that happen? Boom. Your perception is crazy, your IQ is crazy. Your awareness is crazy. It's like a drive in. It's like taking tests in school. I'm not doing very well. I'm going to study. I'm going to get tutoring. I'm going to dive deeper into the information. I'm going to incorporate it more. I'm going to fucking buckle down. I will study, and then you take the test and you do well, it's like, what the fuck is that? So you just understand things. What the fuck's that even means? You have like, retention and recall. You're just like, oh, that's what that is. Okay, I could, like, go back into my mind and look at the things and bring them back to now. And like, that's like memory or retention. Recall the ability to like, remember dates, and like formulas for math tests. And so history tests, it's like, who gave you that ability? What the fuck? I don't know. I lose myself, I do fall, I'll lose myself. Yeah. That's what the losing yourself over. You gotta reground yourself eventually. You're looking at my fucking hands. Thinking about. Thinking. It's so, so, so nuanced. It's just too deep for me. It's it's it's. I'm tripping talk right now. Okay? I think that was what when Joe. Talks about Joe mentions this in his podcast, he's like, it's going to get to the I've heard it mentioned at least 3 or 4 times over the last month or two. He's like, we're going to get to the point to where virtual virtual reality is interesting and is this indistinguishable from real life? And we'll just be in the game all the time, like Ready Player One, but Ready Player one is a movie where that happens. The technology advances. They can go to virtual reality, play this crazy online video game. Everyone plays it all the time. That's all they do. But it's like a fantasy land and you can like have like a, like a six foot character who's like 500 pounds and like a fucking Gollum or you could be like a fucking four foot fairy, or you could do a whole bunch of this, like, fantasy, fantasy world. But Joe is saying that in the future we'll have virtual reality, same stories, video game esque type of thing that you go into, and then you can it'll be this and it'll be like, just like this, and you'll be like. Holy shit, this is good. Look at this. Sometimes I think I'm there. Sometimes I think I'm doing this. This is just ask me. Yesterday was like, do you ever try to. It's kind of weird. You ever try to, like, they were trying to wake up. Yeah, but you're awake. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I do, sometimes I do, sometimes I think it's right around the corner. I was like, Justin. Describes it as sometimes the veil gets real thin, you know? It's like you can almost fucking rip through it, you know? Yeah. Jim Carrey movie fucking. Well, I figured that movies go somewhere. The eternal mind or something. Eternal sunshine, some type shit. Yeah, dude. I'm like, sometimes I think that some, like, a nurse, runs over to my body and like, tranquilizers. Me, because I'm real close to. They see my heartbeat. Oh, fuck. What can I get you? You know. Yeah, yeah. You plug back into this bitch. It's like, well, man. But in regards to the Joe thing, I think I'm there sometimes. But I was thinking about I played that out a little bit further. It's like, what if Joe's right? What if we do get to the advance and we probably will in the next 20 years, in our lifetime, we're going to see some crazy VR shit. It's already pretty wild. Now, those videos of people. Wearing the VR shooting that fallen into things like fucking running into the wall. Hilarious. I love it over in 20 years that that problem is going to be solved. Yeah, we're going to be on a different. Level of AI, VR. So we're going to be doing some crazy virtual reality shit. So play that out of my mind's eye. What happens in this video game 20 years down the road? Like we get to the point where it is indistinguishable and it's like, how would you control the video game at that point if it's like you're in it but you don't even know you're in it anymore? It's like, where's the controller? What's the the control? Like, where's it coming from? How is what's generating the game or what's producing the map or making like chemical requests. Right. Your brain. Yeah. Your mind. I was like, maybe that. Sounds like what's going on right now a little bit. Oh, already? Literally. What's going on right. Yeah. It's like we could be already there already. But either way, this that's I think the controller is in your fucking head. You know. Yeah. It has to be. It has to be. Remember having that same cyber type of shit on the surface, rumors like, oh, we're living in the result of something. And that result is coming from here. And here is like the fucking. That's I'm trying to say is people are trying to escape the this it's so weird because it's like if, like I was telling you, like I go play basketball and it's like I'm just playing two K yeah, but I played in real life. I don't play it on a video game. Yeah. It's like more enjoyable. I'd have less fun playing two K then I would playing basketball. Maybe other people, not so much because they can't. Like, I think some people I think a lot of people actually might sense A or B sentimental with that sentiment. Right. Okay. But like we're constantly trying to do shit that's not this life. And I don't know if it's like our stats are so bad or like the grinding process is so annoying or like I want to play that game. I'd rather play Call of Duty. I'm like, this. Game's fucking crazy, dude. This game is like, I don't think you're watching Game of Thrones, right? Or it's like you're reading the Bible. It's like you're stuck in Leviticus thinking gay people are bad. It's like, that's not what the Bible is like. It's not even. Contextually. What's going on here. So like, that's all I'm trying to say about life too, is like, if you don't like life, I don't think you understand contextually what's going on here. Like, maybe right now, like it's user error. It's like you think you're playing Pokemon, but you're just like running around in the fucking Pokemon Center. Like, I talk to all the people. I field all my Pokemon like a thousand times. There's nothing to do in this game. I'm like, there's like fucking gyms you go to, bro. Like, yeah, there's a designated GTA. You know, there's a designated quest that progresses the game forward, right? Or you. Could you cannot. Drive your car around. Beat up hookers. Yeah. It's gonna be a beat up every hook I can fun. Like that's all we're doing here. That's the thing I think. I think we're hitting on something. There was a truth that I just already have fucking instantiated in my being. And, like, we have a quest we're here for. That's another thing that's a big differentiating faith based kind of question. Presupposition. I believe we're here to do something we is in like everyone specifically individually. You're here to do something that's, that's like the main quest in GTA. But it's like hard to find. It's not just given to you straight up. Sometimes it is, but most of the time you gotta fucking try to work for it. Or like there's other shit in GTA I guess you gotta do to maintain your GTA character. Otherwise will die and you'll lose your account and you will not play the game anymore. Sure, but you. Got to fucking maintain your GTA shit. But there are is a main storyline that's happening for you in your game and like you cross paths with other people on their storylines or not on their storyline, but ultimately there's something you shouldn't be doing here. You know, Walmart wants you to do Walmart. None of that. They're just Walmart. Yeah. They just want you buying Walmart shit. And then you go back to work and you work and then you go buy Walmart. Shit. Then you go back to work and then you buy Walmart shit. And like, I think people get caught up in that like that. Yes. That's not Jesus. No, that's not life. No, that's not like no. Walmart wants you to do that for sure. Or like all this meta. Meta wants you to go to work. And even at any free time you have within work, even on your computer screen, your home screen, have fucking Facebook and Instagram up and running. And then whenever you have any free time, when you're on the shitter, when you're at home, when you're at dinner, when you're in line, you're on your phone looking at fucking. We have your attention. Yeah. And then we're gonna get paid because we have your attention by our everyone who's trying to get your attention, too. Yeah. So like, that's. That would love you to do that. That's all they want you to do. That's it. By definition. That's got to piss you off. Fuck y'all. And make make you want to do your own fucking thing except for YouTube. Come on, let's make some this. That's what I think about. Open your mind. Open your mind. Do you think fucking Zuckerberg. What do you think? He just like how. Much time he spent on Facebook? I don't know, probably none. Probably fucking nuts. Because all. His time at Facebook, I don't know if he spends hours on Facebook Facebooking. Yeah, right. Charting memories and shit. Taking pictures and. Doing astrological polls. Not oh no. But that's what I'm trying to say. Like the guy that invented the thing that's doing it, like the person that invented Walmart. They don't fucking just shop at Walmart a 9 to 5 and shop at Walmart 9 to 5. Shop at Walmart. It's like they had to go do their quest to create something. And then I think somewhere along the line they got away from, well, I don't know, it's just weird. Maybe they didn't intend for this thing at first, but like the woman who's like the Walmart heiress and I heard this on Joe Rogan, okay, you fucking. I was gonna say crucify me for it. But the thing. But like, there was the big rally in Los Angeles, the No Kings rally. It's a big thing going on culturally right now. Yeah. Okay, look, I have this past weekend. This must be like a protest about this stuff. Yeah. Donald Trump. Yeah. All that shit. Yeah. Big collective rally. Protest that could have gone violent. I don't think that it did. I don't know, I don't know. I didn't do too much research, but it was. Organized. I think one person died a year ago. You told me about that. Oh, great. Here we. Are. Here we are, like, God, two fucking people. Dude. Continue. Organized and paid for by the IRS to the Walmart fortune. Why would that happen? You said protest. Yeah. Was organized and paid for by the person who is going to inherit Walmart. Yes. What? Yes. Why? Because Walmart's got to pay a lot of tariffs on a lot of their goods, and they're trying to create some fucked Donald Trump energy for the government. Energy. Try to get these tariffs, maybe pull down a little bit. I mean that's like the running theory. Yes. Do we really know why. Maybe she's just a big. But we know that she ran it for sure. Yeah I can. What the. Fuck. That's weird. And I'm going straight for Joe Rogan, but, he he can't say, come on. At this point. Everyone's going to fact check him. Bro. Yeah, exactly. Come on dog, that's that's a source as good as gold. But that's fucking weird dude. Come on now. Crazy, right? Yeah. Strange. And then, like you, you might go to that rally thinking like, I. Want to do the right thing. I don't think we should. The poor people. It's like, that's not. You're so far removed from what's going on here. I'm compassionate. I'm compassionate. Oh. It gets deep out here, man. And people don't have the time. I don't have the time. I'm just blessed. Thank God I can fucking. Think deeply. About things. I don't know if everyone has access to that. Yeah, even if you want to just ChatGPT is is no control. I was refunded. Organized by a coalition of Progressive People, a coalition of over 200 allied organizations, including the American Federation of Teachers, ACLU, Move On, Public Citizen, or in addition, prominent progressive voices helped amplify the movement. Christy Walton, Walmart heiress, purchased a full page ad in The New York Times to promote No King Stay, a move she funded independently, separate from Walmart itself. There is no credible evidence showing that these rallies were backed by paid protesters or a central political donor. What is the likelihood percentage chance that in addition to these things being funded from 100% being funded, like public information, Lee funded, what is the percentage chance that they also had some sort of, you know, someone like, like, you know, how there's like a warm up act or like a fucking mic to get the crowd riled? Oh, yeah. Get the crowd ready for some acts. Yeah. What's the percent chance it's not zero? Oh, it's high as fuck. It's done it a bunch of times, bro. Come on, it's gross. The fucking pallet of bricks lying around. Some of the protests, like, why is there a fucking pallet of bricks there? Bricks are expensive, you know what I'm saying? Oh my gosh, dude. So, yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of shit going on everywhere. All around you. Like you can't trust the news. There's a war going on for real, for a. That's why I'm just like, Yeah. So be careful, y'all open yourself up to a relationship with the the good side of life, the creation itself. It's it's it is good. It is good. It is. But within this we give we have free will. And that's the price we pay for free will. Nothing's bad at all. Bad. That's us. That's the. That's the exchange here. That's the game here. Bad things are gonna happen because we can do things. Because we're not robots. Because we're not just fucking. We are individuals. We are separated like divided. It's like it feels that way. It's definitely what's going on here, at least in in perceivable reality. At the quantum level, things get a little fucking weird. But but but as far as we're. Concerned, we're here, we're separate, we're divided. But ultimately that's I think it's because we have this fucking this that's like the nature of the game. This is what it is. Yeah. Understanding the nature of that's what I'm trying to was trying to point to with that story is like understanding that nature of the game is fucking like, you got to. Free your mind. Free was open your mind. It's like hard. To separate from what's going on in the news and separate from what's going on at your local watering hole. And like, get yourself in a position where you can actually be a free thinker. And then from that place. I can be more open and fully filled with the Holy Spirit of. Truth. From that place, get filled with the Holy Spirit of truth. Yeah, those are like a difficult thing going on here. Yeah, but like two quick and anecdotal stories that I think are important. One, Matthew, the tax collector. Right. He was a tax collector, which was like disciple. Of. Jesus. Right. But before a disciple of Jesus, he was just a tax collector. Yeah. He was just fucking taking your money. And he was super ostracized for that because the Jewish people were like a more fraternity like culture, I think, than we like, quite understand off just off rip. Because, yeah, we're we're all suffering together, all getting fucked by the Romans together. Exactly. At least we're going to fuck together. And we all left Egypt together. Yes. To come to this place. And then now it was like us. And then now the Romans are like fucking us. Yes. So it's a big US thing going on there, big time. So that Matthew, who was part of the US thing, like joined with the Romans to engage in the fucking of the Jewish. People, take the money from. Them. Right. And they're like, bro. Like, oh, not only that, but they're the culture of the time was big and ostracization feel like unclean. You can go to the synagogue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you were like, if, had been divorced, you couldn't, you know, like you did, you didn't blend well. Yeah. They weren't super forgiving. Social consequences were very high. That's what I'm trying to say. So like but he just wanted a good life more or less. And he was really good at doing a difficult job. And it was hard to find someone who would employ that difficult job, except for the Roman government. Then they would pay well for this difficult thing he was good at. And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do here? You know what I'm saying? I want security, I want a consistent job. I want to be I want to be okay. Yeah. It's like you want me to do something I'm bad at that pays less or do something I'm good at that pays more. It's like, whatever you. It's hard to get into a mind of someone who lived 2000 years ago, but then, like, spent his whole life being okay with being ostracized, being okay with being a tax collector, taking these people's money, doing his math, enjoying his life more or less because he would have stopped, right if he didn't. Just, like, strike that balance he didn't like, I don't wanna do this anymore. But no, he was doing that shit. Yeah. And then Jesus was like, follow me. And then he did a stopping attached collector and his big house. He gave it up for like, basically the ministry let the women live there for a while. He didn't live there anymore. I think he was interested in moving back in with his parents, even potentially, but ultimately not even that. He was just like camping in a tent with Jesus. Yeah, as they roamed around like nomads with not a lot of money and not always with a lot of food. Okay, like that is what I'm talking about, though, that there is more security in being a nomad with Jesus than there is, and being a rich person who does a tyrannical job. That that. Okay. When we talk about like dissecting yourself away from the matrix and kind of red pilling yourself and then trying to fill yourself with like the Holy Spirit, like what that would allude to or what that would look like. My mind that that's it right there. Like, you would think that having this nice government job where you get paid a lot, you got the insurance, you can get a fucking home loan at a good Apr. You fucking never have to worry about a thing. Or you could be a nomad with the person who is wanted by the government, and you're almost doomed to persecution. But there's more security in that, like genuinely more security in that. That's a crazy thing to believe. Like, actually believe. Not just like say, oh, yeah, I think that, yeah, I get that story. I understand that's like, no, you believe it so much that you would. You would. Do it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like believing that you should use your turn signals. Maybe it's not even, like security or just like a it's the better story. It's just the better stuff. How do you define security? Yeah. Like because what I'm saying is like the better story would result in a better outcome. Like it's not just better as in it's more rich, but like, it's like Jesus. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't have a great outcome, but he does. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it's like, I think that the provision that God could provide for you in that place is better than the provision you could provide for yourself in this place, like a thousand fold, you know. Irrefutably. And so that's that's one thing that I try to like. I try to communicate that to my sister where it's just like, I like the chosen because it showed me that it showed me a lot of things. But that's one of the things that showed me. So like in this life, I wouldn't be super happy to stop working a job and just go with Jesus. So how you gonna pay your bills? How are going to feed your daughter? How are you gonna do any of that? It's like, I'm. With Jesus, bro. Like, I'm going to be okay, I promise nothing. Nothing, bro. Even if we're a little hungry, like, that's okay, you know? So that's like something that's been poignant on my mind. It's like to literally drop everything and follow Jesus. Seems like a crazy person would do that. It's like, actually, it's crazy to do the other thing. And then on top of that, separate story, that's Matthew for you. That's what I learned from Matthew. Task like they're. Playing basketball two real life. Matthew. You, me Matthew. Matthew the basketball player. Yeah. There you go. I, I'm playing really well. Like, there's been like, probably four points in my life where I was, like, really good at basketball. And this is one of those points. I'm. They're nice. And so much so that the last time I went, I was like, the first person I picked, I was like, that's pretty aggressive. Yeah. Suspect. That's respect. That's respect. I'm like. I guess I play like I kind of play like Steph Curry, where I run a lot on offense. I run the floor and I shoot a high percentage of threes. I can make like 2 or 3 a game, but make three. That's half the points you need to win from one player and you got four of the players. Statistically, you should be able to pull the rest off. Yeah, totally. And that's cool. Like, well, if I'm going in I'm picking a big man. But it's because I'm Steph Curry, you know I'm saying so I've got that covered. I don't need a shooter. But anyways I play four total games. And in the first two games I played really bad. I missed like all my threes. The first two games I haven't and I shot like four in both games and I missed all of them. And I'm like, fuck dude. I usually can hit like three for four. That's not good. And then on top of that, like I'm not, I'm like, I turned the ball over a few times. I'm just like not playing well. I'm just getting beat. It's just a game. B I see you remember the time is just getting beat. Little girls. Like yelling love at. The yeah the guy, he's just getting beat. And I'm like, fuck man. Like today I was the number one draft pick and I'm playing like dog shit. Oh, and I go on to the third game too soon. I'm just going to be like, it sounds crazy, but I'm like, Jesus, please help me. I'm not playing well, I can't do this on my own. I can't do any of this on my own. Like, please, I'm going to play to my ability. Please help me. Like, come up to, like the person. I'm starting to wonder, like, am I not playing as good as I think? I'm playing as good as I am? Like, am I tripping or did I like peak? And now I'm volleying like, I don't even know. It's like, please, just like work through me, like give me the strength. I can do all things through you. Like you are the way. You are the truth. You are the light. This is a petty, stupid game. But please tell me the play to the best of my ability through you to. And then I go fucking crazy. In the third game, I make four three pointers and two layups. That's ten points. I get ten of our 12 points and the threes are ridiculous. Like the first one is just like a good shot. The second one, like I go in, come back, come off a screen, catch the ball a little bit of contested. The third one's like run down the left side of the court and the ball kind of comes off a weird pass and I have to catch it while I'm running. And then, like, I gathered and then I just felt it too fast to stop, and I just pulled up with it, and the guy closes out in my face. Bury the three and the duck. There's a dad in the corner watching the game who's just like a quiet dad. There's like a young, like a 12 year old playing with us. And the dad's just in there in the corner, and I hit it in his corner and he's just like. Oh, like it's fucking jacked up for it, dude. The kids on your team now. He had next. Oh, okay. I was watching. Just watching, just waiting for his kid to play and like, it was just so. It was so. And then in that moment, I, like, turn to him and I want to be, like, screaming. And I just go like. Oh, praise God. And then run back down court. And it's like a dumb, stupid story. But like legitimately, I called on the name of Jesus and I went insane. I played so up to my ability that it's just, like, so noticeable. Yeah, you. Could just if you could truly believe that I can do all things through Christ. Your ability to perform better through Christ is so noticeable. I call in the name of Jesus. There's power in the name of Jesus. There really is. And I don't think God gets mad at me for asking for his help in a basketball game. I think he's probably like, Matthew doesn't want to play basketball without me, you know what I'm saying? That's how much he knows he needs me. Is that in the middle of his basketball game, he's like, Jesus, please be with me. I can't do this on my own. Can do none of this shit amount. But like Matthew, the person that's trying to evangelize in this moment, like, whatever the fuck you're doing, whatever it is, if you're having a bad day, not doing well at your job. I'm not playing good at video games. Some of that's petty as it could be. You know, it's like try to channel Jesus into what you're doing, try to ask Jesus for help, like, and then you also have to believe it, almost as if it's the placebo effect. If you believe it to be true, it'll be true for you. Like I truly believe Jesus can help me be better. And when I call on his name, he comes into my life and works with me and through me, and it's not even me anymore. And then when I do well, I praise God because I didn't do that shit. I'm not like I'm nasty. Fuck with me. Like, no, I'm legitimately like, Praise God, that's not me. And then I have an incredibly rich experience. I get to be the hero, which is so much better than playing like, the storyline. Yeah, exactly. So anyways, that's what I want to share with the class at the end of the podcast. Fuck yes bro. Yeah, one caveat I think that ties. Well, to piggyback on that, it goes into the episode I was watching last night of The Chosen, but it's like you have to ask for it. You have to believe it can happen and you have to do it or yeah, I'd like do it consistently. But then there's also like another under underneath that is like another foundation of faith that you need to have that when you when because if you ask for it and you get it, it's nice. But if you ask for it in the same way and you don't get it, it's like, you need to I think it's just like an accept a job level of faith and acceptance of, like, no matter what, as long as I am doing my best and trying to channel Jesus, God, the purest energy, authentic vibration I possibly can if I'm legitimately trying to do that. But whatever the outcome is, is, is the the perfect outcome no matter what. Like it's all good. Sure. Like I got it. Sure. You know what I'm saying? Soccer. And the last month I played basketball. Every time I'm like, Jesus, please help me shoot better. I'm not playing. It's my ability. I'm literally like, give me strength, I don't have. Please, God, give me strength. I don't have me. Give me accuracy I don't have right now. I make the fucking next three. I shoot. And every time I'm amazed. And I don't know if he's just doing that for me. Like like I, I wouldn't get upset if it if it didn't happen, but it's just like, that's not not happening. It can happen. It can happen, it can happen. So it's worth trying at least. What do you got to lose? Oh my. Goodness. What do you got to lose? Facts. Come on. That's what we're here for. God tell somebody you love them. We love you. Have a great life. Go fucking knock some dogs die. Ball on the go. Pick someone up. Go give it to someone else if you got it. If you're good, go give someone else you. It's not enough to win. You got to win with the brothers. Come on, 85 out. We'll see you all next week. Summertime vibes. Stay safe, stay hydrated. Drink some fucking water, Play some favorite things. You're worth it. Take care of yourself. Call your mother. Drink some water. I love you guys. See what's up Bye